Rails - Aug 2005 - Favorite (open-source) HTML editors for RoR??

I''m starting up a couple of RoR web development projects. What HTML 
editor do people recommend, and why? It pretty much has to be open 
source, and I''d prefer that it be available in Gentoo, since
that''s
where I do most of my work.

-- 
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

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http://borasky-research.blogspot.com/

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On Aug 26, 2005, at 12:11 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> I''m starting up a couple of RoR web development projects. What
HTML
> editor do people recommend, and why? It pretty much has to be open 
> source, and I''d prefer that it be available in Gentoo, since
that''s
> where I do most of my work.
>
emacs,  because it rules.

Or if you want "real" reasons:
  * psgml mode is cool for editing (X)HTML/XML/Whatever-ML, lots of 
handy stuff
  * MMM mode is cool for adding highlighting to HTML for things like 
Javascript/CSS/PHP/RHTML/whatever other crap you can bastardize your 
HTML with
  * It''s extensible with Lisp (vimscript is blegh.)
  * dmacro is rad.
  * probably a gajillion other reasons, but those are the coolest

-- 
Scott Barron
Lunchbox Software
http://lunchboxsoftware.com
http://lunchroom.lunchboxsoftware.com

Well ... OK ... I was looking for something more WYSIWIG than emacs. 
This is a business website -- it has to look good and work in numerous 
browsers, etc. The thread on web site design whetted my appetite for 
that sort of thing.

If I gotta use a "programmer''s text editor", I''ll
use vim because it''s
in muscle memory. IIRC you can script vim in Ruby :).

Scott Barron wrote:
>
> On Aug 26, 2005, at 12:11 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>
>> I''m starting up a couple of RoR web development projects. What
HTML
>> editor do people recommend, and why? It pretty much has to be open 
>> source, and I''d prefer that it be available in Gentoo, since
that''s
>> where I do most of my work.
>>
>
> emacs,  because it rules.
>
> Or if you want "real" reasons:
>  * psgml mode is cool for editing (X)HTML/XML/Whatever-ML, lots of 
> handy stuff
>  * MMM mode is cool for adding highlighting to HTML for things like 
> Javascript/CSS/PHP/RHTML/whatever other crap you can bastardize your 
> HTML with
>  * It''s extensible with Lisp (vimscript is blegh.)
>  * dmacro is rad.
>  * probably a gajillion other reasons, but those are the coolest
>
-- 
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

http://www.borasky-research.net/
http://borasky-research.blogspot.com/

http://pdxneurosemantics.com
http://pdx-sales-coach.com
http://algocompsynth.com

On Aug 26, 2005, at 12:44 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> Well ... OK ... I was looking for something more WYSIWIG than emacs. 
> This is a business website -- it has to look good and work in numerous 
> browsers, etc. The thread on web site design whetted my appetite for 
> that sort of thing
Oh you meant an in-browser editor, sorry.  Not sure then.  I''ve used 
TinyMCE with some degree of success.  It was easy to drop into a Rails 
app, but I think it doesn''t work in Safari very well (if at all).  In 
fact, the few that I have looked at don''t work in Safari.  So if you 
find one that does, please post!

-- 
Scott Barron
Lunchbox Software
http://lunchboxsoftware.com
http://lunchroom.lunchboxsoftware.com

What I''ve got loaded at the moment are Quanta from KDE, Nvu, Bluefish 
and Screem. Of these, I''ve also got Amaya. Nvu looked the most 
"polished", but I don''t know how it will work with, say,
rhtml pages.

Scott Barron wrote:
>
> On Aug 26, 2005, at 12:44 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>
>> Well ... OK ... I was looking for something more WYSIWIG than emacs. 
>> This is a business website -- it has to look good and work in 
>> numerous browsers, etc. The thread on web site design whetted my 
>> appetite for that sort of thing
>
>
> Oh you meant an in-browser editor, sorry.  Not sure then.  I''ve
used
> TinyMCE with some degree of success.  It was easy to drop into a Rails 
> app, but I think it doesn''t work in Safari very well (if at all). 
In
> fact, the few that I have looked at don''t work in Safari.  So if
you
> find one that does, please post!
>
-- 
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

http://www.borasky-research.net/
http://borasky-research.blogspot.com/

http://pdxneurosemantics.com
http://pdx-sales-coach.com
http://algocompsynth.com

On 8/25/05, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
<znmeb-2WxwdZd67h7R7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> What I''ve got loaded at the moment are Quanta from KDE, Nvu,
Bluefish
> and Screem. Of these, I''ve also got Amaya. Nvu looked the most
> "polished", but I don''t know how it will work with, say,
rhtml pages.
> 
Quanta. rails syntax highlighting (for views) can be added to it (Ruby
is already there)
http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/Quanta

I hope to start on more Ruby on rails support in quanta soon.  

Quanta is also very to customize, and there''s a ton of useful features
for web development. (cvs integration with svn coming, tidy plugins,
projects, project views, open over ftp, ssh, etc.)
It''s trivial to add a konsole plugin too, so you can have a terminal
right in the IDE. (I believe this has already been commited to the 3.5
branch)

There is a VPL mode, which kind of like WYSIWYG, except that it
actually understands, and generates valid code. BUT, it may not work
with rails templates.
The toolbars are very useful in regular mode, but I find the auto
complete is so nice, it''s faster just to start coding by hand.

There''s also excellent CSS support.

Definitely grab the latest version 3.4.x or higher

Chris Martin wrote:
>On 8/25/05, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
<znmeb-2WxwdZd67h7R7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>  
>
>>What I''ve got loaded at the moment are Quanta from KDE, Nvu,
Bluefish
>>and Screem. Of these, I''ve also got Amaya. Nvu looked the most
>>"polished", but I don''t know how it will work with,
say, rhtml pages.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Quanta. rails syntax highlighting (for views) can be added to it (Ruby
>is already there)
>http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/Quanta
>
>I hope to start on more Ruby on rails support in quanta soon.  
>
>Quanta is also very to customize, and there''s a ton of useful
features
>for web development. (cvs integration with svn coming, tidy plugins,
>projects, project views, open over ftp, ssh, etc.)
>It''s trivial to add a konsole plugin too, so you can have a
terminal
>right in the IDE. (I believe this has already been commited to the 3.5
>branch)
>
>There is a VPL mode, which kind of like WYSIWYG, except that it
>actually understands, and generates valid code. BUT, it may not work
>with rails templates.
>The toolbars are very useful in regular mode, but I find the auto
>complete is so nice, it''s faster just to start coding by hand.
>
>There''s also excellent CSS support.
>
>Definitely grab the latest version 3.4.x or higher
>  
>
I''m running KDE 3.4.1 at the moment. Quanta version is Quanta Plus
3.4.1
(GPL version). Is there a (gasp) book about any of them I could find?