Rails - Aug 2005 - Why is there no discussion of rails on the rails IRC?

This really bugs me so i need to vent a little. There is no discussion 
of rubyonrails on the IRC #rubyonrails. Just a bunch of gibberish about 
this that and everything inbetweeen. Real questions on development or 
troubleshooting go ignored. So much noise, so much waste of bandwidth.

A seperate #rails-dev channel is needed with some moderation. But until 
that happens I''ll stick to the mailing list.

Tesla

I''ve found that if you sit in there and answer questions all the time,
people recognize your name and then answer your questions.  I realize
it''s not the instant gratification most people are hoping for, but it
works.

Compare #ror to #php, where every response to a question is "rtfm
noob."  Rails developers are just friendly, I suppose.



On 8/16/05, Tesla <tesla.nicoli-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> This really bugs me so i need to vent a little. There is no discussion
> of rubyonrails on the IRC #rubyonrails. Just a bunch of gibberish about
> this that and everything inbetweeen. Real questions on development or
> troubleshooting go ignored. So much noise, so much waste of bandwidth.
> 
> A seperate #rails-dev channel is needed with some moderation. But until
> that happens I''ll stick to the mailing list.
> 
> Tesla
> 
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>

Tesla wrote:
> This really bugs me so i need to vent a little. There is no discussion 
> of rubyonrails on the IRC #rubyonrails. Just a bunch of gibberish about 
> this that and everything inbetweeen. Real questions on development or 
> troubleshooting go ignored. So much noise, so much waste of bandwidth.
I don''t agree. There''s often Rails discussions and help to be
found on
#rubyonrails. Sure, you can''t always log on, ask a question and have a 
reply a minute after.

Even though there are ~300 people there at most times, there''s no 
guarantee that someone who actually knows a good reply and has the 
time/desire to answer is watching the channel at the time the question 
is posed. However, it''s always guaranteed that someone who knows a junk
answer to gibberish is online and watching.

(I just logged on and at the moment there seems to be conversations 
about CIA, Rails support for legacy apps, migrations, associations and 
probably more, so it does happen)

-- 
Jakob L. Skjerning - http://mentalized.net

* Jakob L. Skjerning (jakob-pixy5vpirPnEueBKFXcDjA@public.gmane.org) [050816
11:35]:
> (I just logged on and at the moment there seems to be conversations 
> about CIA, Rails support for legacy apps, migrations, associations and 
> probably more, so it does happen)
FWIW, I used to slurp the IRC logs with wget and just grep them for
discussions about what I was interested in.  Now there''s a searchable
log of all discussions (which may or may not be easier for you to use
for such a purpose).  I tend to find that 98% of the things I''m looking
for have been encountered by others and already discussed in IRC
numerous times.  The other 2% are almost always the cause of something
I''m doing stupid.  And, yes, I''m exaggerating -- it''s
probably more like
50%/50%.  ;-)

Rick
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Rick Bradley wrote:
> * Jakob L. Skjerning (jakob-pixy5vpirPnEueBKFXcDjA@public.gmane.org)
[050816 11:35]:
> 
>>(I just logged on and at the moment there seems to be conversations 
>>about CIA, Rails support for legacy apps, migrations, associations and 
>>probably more, so it does happen)
> 
> 
> FWIW, I used to slurp the IRC logs with wget and just grep them for
> discussions about what I was interested in.  Now there''s a
searchable
> log of all discussions (which may or may not be easier for you to use
> for such a purpose).  I tend to find that 98% of the things I''m
looking
> for have been encountered by others and already discussed in IRC
> numerous times.  The other 2% are almost always the cause of something
> I''m doing stupid.  And, yes, I''m exaggerating --
it''s probably more like
> 50%/50%.  ;-)
> 
> Rick
Thanks,

I was trying to figure out a way to do this without building up a 5mb 
file. But I guess your way is the best solution for the short term. I 
''ll give it a try.

And yes I like the fact that everyone is so friendly.

Tesla