What does Rails stand for? I really get tired of acronyms but when you are talking to someone about a technology they are not familiar with they will ask you what does "PHP" stand for? what does "Struts" stand for? So rather than coming forth with a blank stare when this happens I come up with some phrases to fit R.a.i.l.s Rails is "Rapid Application and Infrastructure Library System" Rails is "Rapid Application and Interface Library System" But the real question is, Is Rails actually an acronym? Tesla
On Aug 15, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Tesla wrote:> What does Rails stand for? > > I really get tired of acronyms but when you are talking to someone > about a technology they are not familiar with they will ask you what > does "PHP" stand for? what does "Struts" stand for? So rather than > coming forth with a blank stare when this happens I come up with > some phrases to fit R.a.i.l.s > > Rails is "Rapid Application and Infrastructure Library System" > > Rails is "Rapid Application and Interface Library System" > > But the real question is, Is Rails actually an acronym? > > > Tesla >It doesn''t stand for anything, it''s not an acronym. It''s a play off the word struts. -Scott
Scott Barron wrote:> > On Aug 15, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Tesla wrote: > >> What does Rails stand for? > > It doesn''t stand for anything, it''s not an acronym. It''s a play off the > word struts.I always assumed it was a reference to the driving/racing metphor, "handles like it''s on rails". Referring to the nimble-ness and agility of a car taking tight turns being similar to a train or roller coaster car. So Ruby on Rails makes programming web apps in Ruby so easy and nimble that it''s like programming on rails.... But maybe I''m reaching to hard for a metaphor. :) -Brian
Rapid Application and Interface Library The "S" is just because DHH thought pluralization was cool. (oh, come on now -- it''s just a little joking ;)) On Aug 15, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Tesla wrote:> Rails is "Rapid Application and Interface Library System" >_______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Toby Boudreaux wrote:> Rapid Application and Interface Library > > The "S" is just because DHH thought pluralization was cool. > > > (oh, come on now -- it''s just a little joking ;)) > > > On Aug 15, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Tesla wrote: > >> Rails is "Rapid Application and Interface Library System" >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/railsHmm, Usage of this might start it off as a good "urban myth". Or Is it possible to contribute a phrase as part of the project? It might make for easier and better P.R. Tesla
I''ve always assumed the same thing, Brian. That metaphore is exactly the way I think of it... On 8/15/05, Brian V. Hughes <brianvh-ilmOVS5JQ6Xj7r8U7pfrKh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Scott Barron wrote: > > > > On Aug 15, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Tesla wrote: > > > >> What does Rails stand for? > > > > It doesn''t stand for anything, it''s not an acronym. It''s a play off the > > word struts. > > I always assumed it was a reference to the driving/racing metphor, > "handles like it''s on rails". Referring to the nimble-ness and agility > of a car taking tight turns being similar to a train or roller coaster > car. So Ruby on Rails makes programming web apps in Ruby so easy and > nimble that it''s like programming on rails.... But maybe I''m reaching to > hard for a metaphor. :) > > -Brian > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- - Aaron ''Jomdom'' Ransley - Web: www.jomdom.net - Mail: jomdom-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Hi!> So rather than coming > forth with a blank stare when this happens I come up with some phrases > to fit R.a.i.l.sBecause there are yet, too many senses very populars, ie. http://books.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=152993&cid=12837997 :-) Ciao'' Mathieu
Tesla wrote:> Is it possible to contribute a phrase as part of the project? It might > make for easier and better P.R.No. Outside of the military, acronyms are mostly used by elitist fools who think spelling words in fullcaps is cool. Maybe inside the military too. Really, please. Acroynyms are used convey a complete phrase in a single word (fubar) or as mnemonic tools to aid the memory of sequences of words. Evidentally they don''t work for that either, as I can''t recall any examples off the top of my head. Generating an acronym from a perfectly memorable word is perferse and disturbing. Please don''t do it to our dear Rails. As far as easier and better PR, (as if DHH needs any)... acronyms are so Web 1.0. In order to make this email constructive rather than just critisism, I''ll make a suggestion for a much better contribution: a Rails haiku. Let the competition begin. (Or perhaps it should do so in another thread.)
Nicholas Seckar wrote:> Tesla wrote: > >> Is it possible to contribute a phrase as part of the project? It >> might make for easier and better P.R. > > > No. Outside of the military, acronyms are mostly used by elitist fools > who think spelling words in fullcaps is cool. Maybe inside the > military too. > > Really, please. Acroynyms are used convey a complete phrase in a > single word (fubar) or as mnemonic tools to aid the memory of > sequences of words. Evidentally they don''t work for that either, as I > can''t recall any examples off the top of my head. > > Generating an acronym from a perfectly memorable word is perferse and > disturbing. Please don''t do it to our dear Rails. > > As far as easier and better PR, (as if DHH needs any)... acronyms are > so Web 1.0. > > In order to make this email constructive rather than just critisism, > I''ll make a suggestion for a much better contribution: a Rails haiku. > > Let the competition begin. (Or perhaps it should do so in another > thread.) > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >Quote: Generating an acronym from a perfectly memorable word is perferse and disturbing. Please don''t do it to our dear Rails." LOL, Okay, I''ll leave it to a corporate suit :) Amazon just shipped my my books so I''ll have better things to occupy my time with soon.
Nicholas Seckar said:> Tesla wrote: >> Is it possible to contribute a phrase as part of the project? It might >> make for easier and better P.R. > > No. Outside of the military, acronyms are mostly used by elitist fools > who think spelling words in fullcaps is cool. Maybe inside the military > too.As an elitist fool, I take issue with your slander. No self-respecting elitist creates moronic reverse-engineered acronyms. Or acronyms of any kind. Only insecure people create pseudo-rational justifications for making inherently subjective choices. Regards, Ed -- Transmogrify, LLC * <http://xmog.com>
If you guys need an acronym, why not RoR for Ruby on Rails. Isn''t that the official name anyhow? -- rick http://techno-weenie.net
Rick Olson wrote:>If you guys need an acronym, why not RoR for Ruby on Rails. Isn''t >that the official name anyhow? > > > >Maybe I watch to much Law & Order (ok, COPS), but RoR will always mean "Released on own Recognizance": OWN RECOGNIZANCE - Sometimes called personal recognizance. A person who promises to appear in court to answer criminal charges can sometimes be released from jail without having to pay bail. This person is said to be released on his or her own recognizance. (from http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/o024.htm)
Rails isnt an acronym RAILS would be. brian i agree with you fully of you you think of rails. what other language DOES use acronyms? PHP, and its PEAR and Perl ? (nope not an acronym) but CPAN is i guess :x as for that i cant think of any languages/frameworks that are acronyms.. php people need to get there head out of ther ***. "but what does ''rails'' stand for ? if its not something elite like PHP im just not gonna touch that stuff." On 8/15/05, Rick Olson <technoweenie-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> If you guys need an acronym, why not RoR for Ruby on Rails. Isn''t > that the official name anyhow? > > > -- > rick > http://techno-weenie.net > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Zachery Hostens <zacheryph-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
That is one hell of a line, my friend. Let''s hope you were shooting for that irony. -tj On Aug 15, 2005, at 5:21 PM, Zachery Hostens wrote:> php people need to get there head out of ther ***._______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
On 15 Aug 2005, at 22:21, Zachery Hostens wrote:> and Perl ? (nope not an acronym) but CPAN is i guess :xYou seem to be implying Perl has no root as an acronym. It does. PERL is an acronym for Practical Extraction and Reporting Language. However, it is more commonly referred to not as an acronym, but as Perl. This is for reasons Larry Wall spelled out in a document I read some time ago. If I misunderstood your implication, I apologize. Regards, Peter Cooper
Ed Watkeys wrote: >> As an elitist fool, I take issue with your slander. No self-respecting > elitist creates moronic reverse-engineered acronyms.I agree -- no true elitist would. However, an elitist fool might. To explain more, I might add that being elitist is very subjective and most elitists are mere fools. Only very few of us are truly elite. Many are only elite when compared to fools.
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 22:26 +0100, Peter Cooper wrote:> On 15 Aug 2005, at 22:21, Zachery Hostens wrote: > > > and Perl ? (nope not an acronym) but CPAN is i guess :x > > You seem to be implying Perl has no root as an acronym. It does. PERL > is an acronym for Practical Extraction and Reporting Language.Don''t forget the Psychotic, eclectic, rubbish lister. I''ll agree though that Rails does not need to be an acronym. For that matter I seem to remember some time back being told PCMCIA stood for "People Can''t Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms." Oddly enough it was the first way I actually remembered the acronym and quite being confused when I spewed that mouthful out. -- Steven Critchfield <critch-wQLwMjUOumVBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
On 8/15/05, Peter Cooper <peter-kB4nxRGAR8jpCd0h4Hqbjlpr/1R2p/CL@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 15 Aug 2005, at 22:21, Zachery Hostens wrote: > > > and Perl ? (nope not an acronym) but CPAN is i guess :x > > You seem to be implying Perl has no root as an acronym. It does. PERL > is an acronym for Practical Extraction and Reporting Language. > > However, it is more commonly referred to not as an acronym, but as > Perl. This is for reasons Larry Wall spelled out in a document I read > some time ago. If I misunderstood your implication, I apologize. > > Regards, > Peter Cooper > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >Pathological Eclectic Rubbish Lister Lama or Camel book gives both definitions. Can''t recall if it was Eclectic or Eccentric. I also heard a story about it supposed to "Pearl" but someone mispelled it, or there was a library conflict or something. Cheers, Nicholas Van Weerdenburg
On Aug 15, 2005, at 3:09 PM, Steven Critchfield wrote:> On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 22:26 +0100, Peter Cooper wrote: > >> On 15 Aug 2005, at 22:21, Zachery Hostens wrote: >> >> >>> and Perl ? (nope not an acronym) but CPAN is i guess :x >>> >> >> You seem to be implying Perl has no root as an acronym. It does. PERL >> is an acronym for Practical Extraction and Reporting Language. >> > > Don''t forget the > Psychotic, eclectic, rubbish lister. > > I''ll agree though that Rails does not need to be an acronym. > > For that matter I seem to remember some time back being told > PCMCIA stood for "People Can''t Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms." > Oddly enough it was the first way I actually remembered the acronym > and > quite being confused when I spewed that mouthful out. > -- > Steven Critchfield <critch-wQLwMjUOumVBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >And TWAIN stands for Technology Without An Interesting Name ;-) -Ezra Zygmuntowicz Yakima Herald-Republic WebMaster 509-577-7732 ezra-gdxLOakOTQ9oetBuM9ipNAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 15, 2005, at 5:26 PM, Peter Cooper wrote:> You seem to be implying Perl has no root as an acronym. It does. > PERL is an acronym for Practical Extraction and Reporting Language.According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl#Name> Perl was originally named "Pearl", after "the pearl of great price" > of Matthew 13:46. Larry Wall wanted to give the language a short > name with positive connotations, and claims he looked at (and > rejected) every three- and four-letter word in the dictionary. He > even thought of naming it after his wife Gloria. Before the > language''s official release, Wall discovered that there was already > a programming language named Pearl, and changed the spelling of the > name.Unfortunately no source is cited. What''s really interesting, however, is that entry led me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Backronym which is a term for words that have been back-ported to add acronyms. George - -- George Hotelling GPG: 0x8175D485 ] http://george.hotelling.net ] _ _ _ ___ _ _ _/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDAS6YgXVRXIF11IURAvVmAJ4q8LnRwDCdMxOiY9jNIphlPbvDpgCfeexp fZtWkKjUyTRsQ6O4/S4UaQo=s+uC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I like the origin of FORTH better. Chuck Moore developed it on the IBM 1130, and he thought of it as a fourth-generation language. Unfortunately, one could only use 5-letter names on the 1130, so ... FORTH. :) George Hotelling wrote:> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Aug 15, 2005, at 5:26 PM, Peter Cooper wrote: > >> You seem to be implying Perl has no root as an acronym. It does. >> PERL is an acronym for Practical Extraction and Reporting Language. > > > According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl#Name > >> Perl was originally named "Pearl", after "the pearl of great price" >> of Matthew 13:46. Larry Wall wanted to give the language a short >> name with positive connotations, and claims he looked at (and >> rejected) every three- and four-letter word in the dictionary. He >> even thought of naming it after his wife Gloria. Before the >> language''s official release, Wall discovered that there was already >> a programming language named Pearl, and changed the spelling of the >> name. > > > Unfortunately no source is cited. What''s really interesting, > however, is that entry led me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > Backronym which is a term for words that have been back-ported to add > acronyms. > > George > > - -- > George Hotelling GPG: 0x8175D485 ] > http://george.hotelling.net ] > _ _ _ ___ _ _ _/ > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFDAS6YgXVRXIF11IURAvVmAJ4q8LnRwDCdMxOiY9jNIphlPbvDpgCfeexp > fZtWkKjUyTRsQ6O4/S4UaQo> =s+uC > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >