Pardon my newbness. I''m trying to create, populate, and save an object with an HABTM mapping. That''s not working too well so far ;) Assuming I have the mapping correct (HA!) and the db set up properly, how do I create the select and options? I guess mostly I want to know what I''m supposed to name it. I have a FilingEvent class - HABTM State (both models have the HABTM in there: has_and_belongs_to_many :states, :join_table => "filing_events_states" (with the obvious :states/:filing_events difference). So far I haven''t hit the magic combo to get the select input right :/ I didn''t find the gmane archive too searchable, I couldn''t find it in AWDwRoR, and the RDoc didn''t help quite enough. TIA and sorry, Dave