Apologies about the last blank email. Hit send by mistake. ---snip--- PHP support for OO is weak, you need to do a huge amount of code by hand to do trivial things (where in rails you can scaffold and personalize after), you don''t have a good ORM, and you don''t have ruby :) ---snip--- I would say PHP''s OO support (PHP5 at least) is fairly decent, for a language that isn''t inherently OO like Ruby. Also, whilst not as "magic" as ActiveRecord, there is a pretty nice PHP ORM framework out there called Propel. http://propel.phpdb.org Cheers Luke Redpath _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails