If you install something like du meter, which shows inbound and outbound network traffic, you''ll be able to check that your local firewall isn''t blocking the download or some other software is stopping it from getting through. Erik ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:23:48 +0200 From: Maximilian Sch?fmann <schoefma-iTXTfpxOz/5YiKXMg8wJIg@public.gmane.org> Subject: [Rails] Re: gems and Windows XP> I am not sure how to get around the problem. If we find a workaround > to make gems work, most likely other things will break. I suppose the > problem needs a fix at a deeper level...After the post from Jim McMaster who could put down his problems to PGP, I could finally solve mine, too. I had Ciphire Mail installed, which - like PGP - hooks into the network stream to (de)cypher emails. Just deactivating it wasn''t enough - I had to uninstall it. Now the rails installation works! I suppose that other programs with this behaviour, like antivirus-software which scans the email traffic automatically etc., may cause similar problems. Of course this is just a workaround if one can do without the particular software, the bug itself remains and has to be solved by the ruby developers. Max
Thanks everybody who responded! ZoneAlarm breaks Ruby''s socket connections on my system. Shutting down ZoneAlarm is not good enough, I would have to completely uninstall it to fix this issues. Others have had the same problem: http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/142714 I will get a different firewall / AV product... Nik> Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:23:48 +0200 > From: Maximilian Sch?fmann <schoefma-iTXTfpxOz/5YiKXMg8wJIg@public.gmane.org> > Subject: [Rails] Re: gems and Windows XP > > >>I am not sure how to get around the problem. If we find a workaround >>to make gems work, most likely other things will break. I suppose the >>problem needs a fix at a deeper level... > > > After the post from Jim McMaster who could put down his problems to PGP, > I could finally solve mine, too. I had Ciphire Mail installed, which - > like PGP - hooks into the network stream to (de)cypher emails. > Just deactivating it wasn''t enough - I had to uninstall it. Now the > rails installation works! > I suppose that other programs with this behaviour, like > antivirus-software which scans the email traffic automatically etc., may > cause similar problems. > Of course this is just a workaround if one can do without the particular > software, the bug itself remains and has to be solved by the ruby > developers. > > Max
nikolaus heger wrote:> Thanks everybody who responded! > > ZoneAlarm breaks Ruby''s socket connections on my system. Shutting down > ZoneAlarm is not good enough, I would have to completely uninstall it to > fix this issues. > > Others have had the same problem: > http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/142714 > > I will get a different firewall / AV product... > > NikI really don''t understand why you had to do this when I run ZoneAlarm on all my Windows machines without any interference. I run at "Medium" security level giving the "Ruby Interpreter" full Internet and server access. What are your settings? Curt
Maybe you are running an older version? I had 5.5 with latest updates. I *heard* ZoneAlarm in earlier versions was ok Also I ran ZoneAlarm Security Suite (as opposed to the personal firewall) Which version are you running? BTW I now uninstalled ZoneAlarm and now /gems runs fine so I am absolutely sure that this was the cause. As I have mentioned before, this issue had nothing to do with ZoneAlarm settings! It happened even when ZoneAlarm was completely shut down (but not uninstalled). Nik Curt Hibbs wrote:> nikolaus heger wrote: > >> Thanks everybody who responded! >> >> ZoneAlarm breaks Ruby''s socket connections on my system. Shutting down >> ZoneAlarm is not good enough, I would have to completely uninstall it >> to fix this issues. >> >> Others have had the same problem: >> http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/142714 >> >> I will get a different firewall / AV product... >> >> Nik > > > I really don''t understand why you had to do this when I run ZoneAlarm on > all my Windows machines without any interference. I run at "Medium" > security level giving the "Ruby Interpreter" full Internet and server > access. > > What are your settings? > > Curt > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
This SORT of thing has been a ZA issue for a long time; it has some daemon that hooks into the systems networking layer that still traps/disables/<expletive deleted> traffic even when "turned off". On 7/1/05, nikolaus heger <nikolaus.heger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Maybe you are running an older version? I had 5.5 with latest updates. I *heard* > ZoneAlarm in earlier versions was ok > > Also I ran ZoneAlarm Security Suite (as opposed to the personal firewall) > > Which version are you running? > > BTW I now uninstalled ZoneAlarm and now /gems runs fine so I am absolutely sure > that this was the cause. > > As I have mentioned before, this issue had nothing to do with ZoneAlarm > settings! It happened even when ZoneAlarm was completely shut down (but not > uninstalled). > > Nik > > Curt Hibbs wrote: > > nikolaus heger wrote: > > > >> Thanks everybody who responded! > >> > >> ZoneAlarm breaks Ruby''s socket connections on my system. Shutting down > >> ZoneAlarm is not good enough, I would have to completely uninstall it > >> to fix this issues. > >> > >> Others have had the same problem: > >> http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/142714 > >> > >> I will get a different firewall / AV product... > >> > >> Nik > > > > > > I really don''t understand why you had to do this when I run ZoneAlarm on > > all my Windows machines without any interference. I run at "Medium" > > security level giving the "Ruby Interpreter" full Internet and server > > access. > > > > What are your settings? > > > > Curt > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
In the networking world these sorts of things are referred to as filter drivers and can cause grief as described below. You might check in the network adapter->properties menu to see if there is an entry for ZoneAlarm in the "Connection uses the following items" window. These can usually be checked or unchecked. If unchecked, traffic *shouldn''t* go through them. I haven''t worked with ZA specifically so YMMV. On Jul 1, 2005, at 7:23 AM, Michael Campbell wrote:> This SORT of thing has been a ZA issue for a long time; it has some > daemon that hooks into the systems networking layer that still > traps/disables/<expletive deleted> traffic even when "turned off". > > On 7/1/05, nikolaus heger <nikolaus.heger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> Maybe you are running an older version? I had 5.5 with latest >> updates. I *heard* >> ZoneAlarm in earlier versions was ok >> >> Also I ran ZoneAlarm Security Suite (as opposed to the personal >> firewall) >> >> Which version are you running? >> >> BTW I now uninstalled ZoneAlarm and now /gems runs fine so I am >> absolutely sure >> that this was the cause. >> >> As I have mentioned before, this issue had nothing to do with >> ZoneAlarm >> settings! It happened even when ZoneAlarm was completely shut down >> (but not >> uninstalled). >> >> Nik >> >> Curt Hibbs wrote: >> >>> nikolaus heger wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Thanks everybody who responded! >>>> >>>> ZoneAlarm breaks Ruby''s socket connections on my system. >>>> Shutting down >>>> ZoneAlarm is not good enough, I would have to completely >>>> uninstall it >>>> to fix this issues. >>>> >>>> Others have had the same problem: >>>> http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/142714 >>>> >>>> I will get a different firewall / AV product... >>>> >>>> Nik >>>> >>> >>> >>> I really don''t understand why you had to do this when I run >>> ZoneAlarm on >>> all my Windows machines without any interference. I run at "Medium" >>> security level giving the "Ruby Interpreter" full Internet and >>> server >>> access. >>> >>> What are your settings? >>> >>> Curt >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rails mailing list >>> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
John Marsan wrote:> > In the networking world these sorts of things are referred to as filter > drivers and can cause grief as described below. You might check in the > network adapter->properties menu to see if there is an entry for > ZoneAlarm in the "Connection uses the following items" window. These > can usually be checked or unchecked. If unchecked, traffic *shouldn''t* > go through them. I haven''t worked with ZA specifically so YMMV.Too late - I already removed it. Since my System seems about 2x as fast as before now I am not going to go re-install it, either :) While trying to find a replacement for ZA I found an article where hackers from the CCC (the venerable Chaos Computer Club in germany) elaborate on a root exploit for windows XP that passes by all firewalls. They have convinced me to instead turn off all insecure services using Secure-IT. I am running WinXP firewall on top of it out of sheer paranoia. I know I _should_ run some perpetually scanning AV software too but in reality I usually know about new exploits / viruses before the AV companies do and so it not make my system significanly more secure (only defends against known viruses). Of course I am not using IE or outlook ;) in effect, there are no simple attack vectors on my system. Firefox / JavaScript is pretty much the only one. Nevertheless if anybody knows of lightweight AV software (does not need to be free) let me know - Off list please as this thread really has nothing to do with Rails anymore. I have tried Norton and ZoneAlarm and neither are lightweight. I want something that does _not_ try to hook itself all over the system in a misguided attempt to make it "more secure". Nik> On Jul 1, 2005, at 7:23 AM, Michael Campbell wrote: > >> This SORT of thing has been a ZA issue for a long time; it has some >> daemon that hooks into the systems networking layer that still >> traps/disables/<expletive deleted> traffic even when "turned off". >> >> On 7/1/05, nikolaus heger <nikolaus.heger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >>> Maybe you are running an older version? I had 5.5 with latest >>> updates. I *heard* >>> ZoneAlarm in earlier versions was ok >>> >>> Also I ran ZoneAlarm Security Suite (as opposed to the personal >>> firewall) >>> >>> Which version are you running? >>> >>> BTW I now uninstalled ZoneAlarm and now /gems runs fine so I am >>> absolutely sure >>> that this was the cause. >>> >>> As I have mentioned before, this issue had nothing to do with ZoneAlarm >>> settings! It happened even when ZoneAlarm was completely shut down >>> (but not >>> uninstalled). >>> >>> Nik >>> >>> Curt Hibbs wrote: >>> >>>> nikolaus heger wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks everybody who responded! >>>>> >>>>> ZoneAlarm breaks Ruby''s socket connections on my system. Shutting >>>>> down >>>>> ZoneAlarm is not good enough, I would have to completely uninstall it >>>>> to fix this issues. >>>>> >>>>> Others have had the same problem: >>>>> http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/142714 >>>>> >>>>> I will get a different firewall / AV product... >>>>> >>>>> Nik >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I really don''t understand why you had to do this when I run >>>> ZoneAlarm on >>>> all my Windows machines without any interference. I run at "Medium" >>>> security level giving the "Ruby Interpreter" full Internet and server >>>> access.