Hi I bougth the beta rails book as a combo (pdf + printed book). until now I only read the chapter on Active Record. this rocks. very detailed and very good description of AR. and very easy to follow. now database programming is fun again. a while ago I published a review about the Pickaxe 2nd edtion in linuxenterprise (a german Linux magazine) where I wrote the the book is one of the best books about a programming language ever written. the Rails book seems to be of the same quality. if you have not already bought it, get it. it''s well worth the money. I hope there will be more books on Rails. especially I would like to have something in the style of Oreilly''s "Perl Cookbook" (great book, wrong language). thanks again to the authors. you did a great job. Markus ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de