Hi folks, I''m sure I''m not alone in liking the GMail interface while feeling less and less happy about Google as a company. I''m planning to move out of GMail but will really miss the interface. Is anyone working on a Rails version of the GMail front-end that could be layered over a POP3 or IMAP server? Regards, Matt -- Matt Mower :: http://matt.blogs.it/
Le vendredi 13 mai 2005 à 16:10 +0100, Matt Mower a écrit :> Hi folks,Hello,> Is anyone working on a Rails version of the GMail front-end that could > be layered over a POP3 or IMAP server?That would be great ! I don''t have the RoR skill to do that I think but I''d really love to see such a project coming out. Bye. -- Nicolas Cavigneaux | GPG KeyID : CFE76D24 nico-DRabjd/C3MEdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org | http://www.bounga.org _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
> while feeling > less and less happy about Google as a company.what Google does as a company is important, but shouldn''t affect your choice in their products... what reason is substantial enough to make you leave gmail... just out of curiosity what did they do?> I''m planning to move > out of GMail but will really miss the interface.you wont find it anywhere else unfortunately> Is anyone working on a Rails version of the GMail front-end that could > be layered over a POP3 or IMAP server?that would be neat, but google has entire development teams working on this... it wouldnt be easy> > Regards, > > Matt > > -- > Matt Mower :: http://matt.blogs.it/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Casey Gollan wrote:>> while feeling >> less and less happy about Google as a company. > > > what Google does as a company is important, but shouldn''t affect your > choice in their products... what reason is substantial enough to make > you leave gmail... just out of curiosity what did they do?Why? I do that all the time. If I don''t like a companies policy, I try not use their products. With something like email, well, it is very easy to move on since you can always have your own email server :)>> Is anyone working on a Rails version of the GMail front-end that could >> be layered over a POP3 or IMAP server? > > > that would be neat, but google has entire development teams working > on this... it wouldnt be easyNot exactly true. It is always easier to clone something like gmail than to come up with it from scratch. You are essentially bypassing the entire software requirements/design phase and go almost immediately to development. Also, the clone of gmail would not have to scale in the same way as gmail does! - Adam
What''s wrong with Google''s policies? They seem to be one of the only software companies doing anything exciting these days. You''re not gonna convince me to use anything but Gmail unless something spectacular is released (and is just as free ;-) -PJ http://pjhyett.com On 5/13/05, Adam M. <gnuman1-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Casey Gollan wrote: > > >> while feeling > >> less and less happy about Google as a company. > > > > > > what Google does as a company is important, but shouldn''t affect your > > choice in their products... what reason is substantial enough to make > > you leave gmail... just out of curiosity what did they do? > > Why? I do that all the time. If I don''t like a companies policy, I try > not use their products. With something like email, well, it is very easy > to move on since you can always have your own email server :) > > >> Is anyone working on a Rails version of the GMail front-end that could > >> be layered over a POP3 or IMAP server? > > > > > > that would be neat, but google has entire development teams working > > on this... it wouldnt be easy > > Not exactly true. It is always easier to clone something like gmail than > to come up with it from scratch. You are essentially bypassing the > entire software requirements/design phase and go almost immediately to > development. Also, the clone of gmail would not have to scale in the > same way as gmail does! > > - Adam > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
On 5/13/05, Casey Gollan <caseygollan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > while feeling > > less and less happy about Google as a company. > > what Google does as a company is important, but shouldn''t affect your > choice in their products... what reason is substantial enough to make > you leave gmail... just out of curiosity what did they do?There''s a lot of anti-gmail thinking out there. Perhaps some truth to some of it, but here I am anyway. Found this not too long ago... http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/> > I''m planning to move > > out of GMail but will really miss the interface. > > you wont find it anywhere else unfortunately > > > Is anyone working on a Rails version of the GMail front-end that could > > be layered over a POP3 or IMAP server? > > that would be neat, but google has entire development teams working > on this... it wouldnt be easyNot easy, but not nearly as complicated if you''re building a private version. You can forget... Invites, Ads, terrabytes of storage, settings, multiple layouts. Granted, still a lot of work just to get the interface right. -- Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)
Bill Guindon wrote:>On 5/13/05, Casey Gollan <caseygollan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > >>>while feeling >>>less and less happy about Google as a company. >>> >>> >>what Google does as a company is important, but shouldn''t affect your >>choice in their products... what reason is substantial enough to make >>you leave gmail... just out of curiosity what did they do? >> >> > >There''s a lot of anti-gmail thinking out there. Perhaps some truth to >some of it, but here I am anyway. Found this not too long ago... > >http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/ > >What gmail-is-too-creepy.com says are correct not just about Google but everything else (especially "free" stuff). That''s how they make money. They sell/give all of this information as aggregate statistics to whoever. Now if you think gmail is too creepy, how about TiVo? How does TiVo know what you watch? What you record? I think that is much more private than some public email. If I want privacy, I do not use gmail for that mail. Heck, I encrypt an email if I want privacy. Profiling (what Google, MSN, Yahoo, TiVo, etc..) are doing is made possible by the Internet. Everything you post, to this list for example, will be tracked. If someone wants privacy, then they can only use encrypted email. Anyway, I use gmail to off-load my spam to it and it seems it is working so far :) - Adam PS. In gmail, you could probably get stuff erased regardless. Before you stop using gmail, mark everything spam and then delete it :P Hopefully it will just screw up settings on your account!
On 5/13/05, Casey Gollan <caseygollan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> what Google does as a company is important, but shouldn''t affect your > choice in their products... what reason is substantial enough to make > you leave gmail... just out of curiosity what did they do? >On the contrary, how a company behaves is of vital interest to me in terms of whether I choose to use their products. Especially a product which I am only entitled to use: Google have the right to change GMail in any way they please. There have been a number of incidents over the last 12 months which have lead to an inflection point in my thinking vis-a-vis Google. Atom vs. RSS, Content modification, web accelerator (with the possibility of content modification), and GMail lockouts being only the most recent. The Google attitude is also a constant weighting factor. I would like to minimize or remove my dependence upon them and their products.> > Is anyone working on a Rails version of the GMail front-end that could > > be layered over a POP3 or IMAP server? > > that would be neat, but google has entire development teams working > on this... it wouldnt be easy >Having received several emails on this I feel I should clarify my initial message: I have no intention of starting such a project myself. My sole intention was to enquire whether there was already such a project and, if not, to guage interest in the hope that others would be encouraged to start one. In the meantime I shall plan to move my email back to my own domain and fall back to Thunderbird or the beautifully named Mail.app. Regards, Matt -- Matt Mower :: http://matt.blogs.it/