Hi guys, A quick announcement that might be of some intereset for some of you. I''ve just started blogging today and to start off, I''ll be writing about web development using Rails as compared to ASP.NET. Here: http://dema.ruby.com.br/ Stay tuned. ;-) Rgds Demetrius
Cool. As an ASP.Net developer myself, I am interested in what you have to say. Though I''m not MCAD certified, don''t have a degree, or run a startup (though, I work in one run by my MS-minded boss). And, we have a little CMS. He''s definitely noticed my shift in mindshare from ASP.Net 2.0 to Rails and is open to the idea of a rails replacement for our system. About six months ago I had the early ASP.Net 1.0 beta 1 stuff and was already writing applications and keeping up with all that hoopla. Well, I hear that Beta 2 dropped a few weeks ago, but honestly I have no intentions of even checking it out. Rails is the web framework I was looking for, and I''m not going back. rick On 4/29/05, Demetrius Nunes <demetrius-fDpYTK8McCzCdMRJFJuMdgh0onu2mTI+@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi guys, > > A quick announcement that might be of some intereset for some of you. > > I''ve just started blogging today and to start off, I''ll be writing about > web development using Rails as compared to ASP.NET. > > Here: http://dema.ruby.com.br/ > > Stay tuned. ;-) > > Rgds > Demetrius > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- rick http://techno-weenie.net
I''m all for a thorough discussion of it. Most of the comparisons have been between Java or PHP and Rails. So if you want some thoughts from another ASP.NET developer, let me know. I wrote an n-tier app all in c# with an asp.net top layer, and I''ve been playing with rails since 0.11. Matt Demetrius Nunes wrote:> Hi guys, > > A quick announcement that might be of some intereset for some of you. > > I''ve just started blogging today and to start off, I''ll be writing about > web development using Rails as compared to ASP.NET. > > Here: http://dema.ruby.com.br/ > > Stay tuned. ;-) > > Rgds > Demetrius > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >
Great idea. Sounds like a comparison from a reasonable source rather than the typical vitriolic dribble. On 4/29/05, Demetrius Nunes <demetrius-fDpYTK8McCzCdMRJFJuMdgh0onu2mTI+@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi guys, > > A quick announcement that might be of some intereset for some of you. > > I''ve just started blogging today and to start off, I''ll be writing about > web development using Rails as compared to ASP.NET. > > Here: http://dema.ruby.com.br/ > > Stay tuned. ;-) > > Rgds > Demetrius > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Heya :)> -----Original Message----- > From: rails-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org [mailto:rails- > bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Demetrius Nunes > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:36 PM > To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > Subject: [Rails] Rails vs ASP.NET > > I''ve just started blogging today and to start off, I''ll be writing about > web development using Rails as compared to ASP.NET.That will be interesting... ASP.NET 1 or 2? There are some fairly significant additional features to 2 that make it a seriously cool tool. I think if scoped right the discussion can be interesting, if not scoped right then it simply becomes a pro-rails screed that can''t be taken very seriously (as so many are). ASP.NET covers a lot of ground that Ruby / Rails doesn''t really delve into - and obviously those aspects are sort of outside the realm of comparison. Personally? I think Rails has a great spot in out tool chain - replacing PHP as the tool of choice for the low-mid end of our complexity cycle and for prototyping. The bigger, more complex systems will be ASP.NET all the way it looks like. Soulhuntre ---------- http://www.girl2.com - my girls http://www.the-estate.com - my legacy http://wiki.thegreybook.com - my project http://weblog.soulhuntre.com - my thoughts
Rick Olson wrote:> Cool. As an ASP.Net developer myself, I am interested in what you > have to say. Though I''m not MCAD certified, don''t have a degree, or > run a startup (though, I work in one run by my MS-minded boss). And, > we have a little CMS. He''s definitely noticed my shift in mindshare > from ASP.Net 2.0 to Rails and is open to the idea of a rails > replacement for our system. > > About six months ago I had the early ASP.Net 1.0 beta 1 stuff and was > already writing applications and keeping up with all that hoopla. > Well, I hear that Beta 2 dropped a few weeks ago, but honestly I have > no intentions of even checking it out. Rails is the web framework I > was looking for, and I''m not going back.Well, you might reconsider that when you take a closer look at new execution model in ASP.NET 2 and the new features on C# 2.0 language. These new stuff tend to approximate to the Ruby and Rails dynamic way of doing things a lot. Anyway, Rails is my platform of choice for webapps nowadays but I like what I see coming from those Redmond guys. So stay tuned, I will comment more about this on the blog. rgds Demetrius
Soulhuntre wrote:> That will be interesting... ASP.NET 1 or 2? There are some fairly > significant additional features to 2 that make it a seriously cool tool.Yes, I''ve commented about that on other reply. ASP.NET 2 and C# 2 designers seems to have gathered some cool ideas from the dynamic languages world. I will sure be talking about this on the blog.> I think if scoped right the discussion can be interesting, if not scoped > right then it simply becomes a pro-rails screed that can''t be taken very > seriously (as so many are). ASP.NET covers a lot of ground that Ruby / Rails > doesn''t really delve into - and obviously those aspects are sort of outside > the realm of comparison.Be sure that I won''t be a screaming Rails fan, bashing on ASP.NET head. Although Rails is my weapon of choice for most web apps I will be building in the near future. On the other hand, ASP.NET offers some nice features and tools as well, so I''ll try to keep it a more or less balanced discussion.> Personally? I think Rails has a great spot in out tool chain - replacing PHP > as the tool of choice for the low-mid end of our complexity cycle and for > prototyping. The bigger, more complex systems will be ASP.NET all the way it > looks like.I am not so sure if Rails have this so called scalability limits that the Java guys love to point out as their last line of defense. I mean, there are pretty big apps being done in Rails and the framework seems to be supporting those well enough. On the other hand, Orkut is just as slow as hell on top of ASP.NET, inspite of Microsoft effort to deliver a full-blown enterprise ready platform. rgds Dema