I have read the Partials documentation [1]. How do Partials significantly differ from helper methods which return a string? Is it only a question of amount of raw HTML versus raw code? (A Partial should be used if mostly HTML is returned, while a Helper should be used if a lot of code exists?) Are there other limitations, scope differences, or limitations that I''m not aware of? [1] http://www.pointstorm.com/~gavin/partials-doc/classes/ActionView/Partials.html gavin.kistner programmer analyst 303.444.1777 refinery top 25 US interactive agency http://www.refinery.com/news/ _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Ahem. Is it only me getting irritated to no end with HTML email in the list? Is there any policy about this? On 19-apr-05, at 21:12, Gavin Kistner wrote: -- Julian "Julik" Tarkhanov
* Julian ''Julik'' Tarkhanov (listbox-RY+snkucC20@public.gmane.org) [050419 15:20]:> Ahem. Is it only me getting irritated to no end with HTML email in the > list? Is there any policy about this?After the 15th or so flamewar about this over the past 8 or so years I started using w3m [0] as my mail pager inside of mutt, so all html is flattened to text transparently (actually, there''s a single line at the top that notes that w3m has been invoked, in case I''m curious). While I agree strongly that HTML email (and its moronic [1] Microsoft cousing) is a scourge, my blood pressure (which is quite fine, thanks) cannot handle my getting upset at the infinite supply of people who persist in sending HTML mail. [0] http://w3m.sourceforge.net/ [1] http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/ Rick -- http://www.rickbradley.com MUPRN: 974 | UPDATE command in random email haiku | my sql query since data | already exists.
On 20/04/05, Julian ''Julik'' Tarkhanov <listbox-RY+snkucC20@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Ahem. Is it only me getting irritated to no end with HTML email in the > list? Is there any policy about this?It''s amazingly irritating! Gmail seems to strip most of it though, so it''s not too bad. Personally I would filter emails to the list and bounce everything with attachments, but I don''t run the list. -- Phillip Hutchings http://www.sitharus.com/ sitharus-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org / sitharus-QrR4M9swfipWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org
Well, if there''s no policy I should not complain. And I cannot pipe things in Mail.app Sigh. The last bit of it was when I noticed an email aligned **right** in the list. Double sigh and topic is closed. On 19-apr-05, at 23:16, Phillip Hutchings wrote:> It''s amazingly irritating! Gmail seems to strip most of it though, so >-- Julian "Julik" Tarkhanov
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 01:02 +0200, Julian ''Julik'' Tarkhanov wrote:> Well, if there''s no policy I should not complain. And I cannot pipe > things in Mail.app > Sigh. > > The last bit of it was when I noticed an email aligned **right** in the > list. Double sigh and topic is closed. > > On 19-apr-05, at 23:16, Phillip Hutchings wrote: > > It''s amazingly irritating! Gmail seems to strip most of it though, so > > >If they do come up with a policy, can part of that be that we try to bottom post and perhaps avoid thread hijacking? Seems like this list gets a lot of top/bottom responses and the archives aren''t as fun to read due to this. my 2 cents -- /****************************************************** * Robby Russell, Owner.Developer.Geek * PLANET ARGON, Open Source Solutions & Web Hosting * Portland, Oregon | p: 503.351.4730 | f: 815.642.4068 * www.planetargon.com | www.robbyonrails.com *******************************************************/
On Wednesday, April 20, 2005, 5:12:39 AM, Gavin wrote:> How do Partials significantly differ from helper methods which > return a string?They don''t.> Is it only a question of amount of raw HTML versus raw code? (A > Partial should be used if mostly HTML is returned, while a Helper > should be used if a lot of code exists?)That pretty much sums it up for me. I try to keep the layout of the page visible in the master RHTML file (e.g. the layout, or a significant action), and use partials to do the dirty work. The partials will typically call helper methods; sometimes for simple things, sometimes complex.> Are there other limitations, scope differences, or limitations that > I''m not aware of?Not that I''m aware of. Gavin
Hiya! On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Robby Russell wrote the following:> If they do come up with a policy, can part of that be that we try to > bottom post and perhaps avoid thread hijacking? Seems like this list > gets a lot of top/bottom responses and the archives aren''t as fun to > read due to this. > > my 2 cents+1 Wolfgang
I use Gmail, I haven''t noticed anything like that. Gmail rules. Email me privately for an invitation (as if they''re hard to come by ;-) Regards, Tomas On 4/19/05, Julian ''Julik'' Tarkhanov <listbox-RY+snkucC20@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Ahem. Is it only me getting irritated to no end with HTML email in the > list? Is there any policy about this? > > On 19-apr-05, at 21:12, Gavin Kistner wrote: > > -- > Julian "Julik" Tarkhanov > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
On Apr 19, 2005, at 2:14 PM, Julian ''Julik'' Tarkhanov wrote:> Ahem. Is it only me getting irritated to no end with HTML email in the > list? Is there any policy about this? > > On 19-apr-05, at 21:12, Gavin Kistner wrote: >I apologize; I was unaware that the email had HTML in it. The only way I had available to me to post to the rails list (to which my home address is subscribed) from work was to use MS Outlook''s web interface. I will see if there is any way to change its message format, and if not I will not post to this list from work again. -- (-, /\ \/ / /\/
On 20-apr-05, at 14:10, Gavin Kistner wrote:> I apologize; I was unaware that the email had HTML in it. The only way > I had available to me to post to the rails list (to which my home > address is subscribed) from work was to use MS Outlook''s web > interface. I will see if there is any way to change its message > format, and if not I will not post to this list from work again.How lovely (serious!). To return the favor I oblige myself to bottom-post on the lists (it goes right away into my hipster PDA). -- Julian "Julik" Tarkhanov