> ps: for the tutorial I just used vi to open the files for editing > quickly. I think there is a way to add syntax highlighting for Ruby. > But > feel free to mention any editors you like...as long as it does not > start > any flame wars. ;)BBEdit is nice (although I know opinions differ around here). There''s also the free "lite" version off BBEdit called TextWrangler which does nearly everything BBE does. There''s a ruby syntax coloring module around somewhere too.
Textmate is the best editor for the mac On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:25:08 -0600, Andrew Otwell <andrew-uQjPo4GTFqgS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > ps: for the tutorial I just used vi to open the files for editing > > quickly. I think there is a way to add syntax highlighting for Ruby. > > But > > feel free to mention any editors you like...as long as it does not > > start > > any flame wars. ;) > > BBEdit is nice (although I know opinions differ around here). There''s > also the free "lite" version off BBEdit called TextWrangler which does > nearly everything BBE does. There''s a ruby syntax coloring module > around somewhere too. > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Tobi http://www.hieraki.org - Open source book authoring http://blog.leetsoft.com - Technical weblog
Under Windows and Linux I either use the Armed Bear J editor, or I use the FreeRIDE. Don''t let the Java part of J intimidate you, it''s actually mostlly Lisp like emacs and it has some great features considering it''s size. I''d say it''s got the best indentation around. Best of all it works everywhere, even on macs and stuff. FreeRIDE is pretty nice for Ruby, but you can tell it''s still rough. I use it mostly for learning right now, and most like will go back to J for serious development. Zed On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 18:25 -0600, Andrew Otwell wrote:> > ps: for the tutorial I just used vi to open the files for editing > > quickly. I think there is a way to add syntax highlighting for Ruby. > > But > > feel free to mention any editors you like...as long as it does not > > start > > any flame wars. ;) > > BBEdit is nice (although I know opinions differ around here). There''s > also the free "lite" version off BBEdit called TextWrangler which does > nearly everything BBE does. There''s a ruby syntax coloring module > around somewhere too. > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >-- Zed A. Shaw http://www.zedshaw.com/
On Saturday 29 Jan 2005 9:31 am, Zed Shaw wrote:> Under Windows and Linux I either use the Armed Bear J editor, or I use > the FreeRIDE.I like to use Emacs on windows and linux ( if you have a mac get textmate ) it has a awesome ruby-mode thats made by Matz him self. You can also make cool macros to do auto completion and do a loads of cool stuff using semantic. xal: waiting for your reply :D -- Best Regards, Warren Brian Noronha. GNU (http://www.gnu.org.in)
I use Textmate and SubEthaEdit mostly. I find myself in SEE a lot and you can install its command-line utility, which is convenient. Jamie On Jan 29, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Warren Brian Noronha wrote:> On Saturday 29 Jan 2005 9:31 am, Zed Shaw wrote: >> Under Windows and Linux I either use the Armed Bear J editor, or I use >> the FreeRIDE. > > I like to use Emacs on windows and linux ( if you have a mac get > textmate ) > it has a awesome ruby-mode thats made by Matz him self. You can also > make > cool macros to do auto completion and do a loads of cool stuff using > semantic. > > xal: waiting for your reply :D > > -- > Best Regards, > Warren Brian Noronha. > GNU (http://www.gnu.org.in) > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Oh boy, I would love to see a Windows port for TextMate... :( Jamie Orchard-Hays wrote:> I use Textmate and SubEthaEdit mostly. I find myself in SEE a lot and > you can install its command-line utility, which is convenient. > > Jamie > > On Jan 29, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Warren Brian Noronha wrote: > >> On Saturday 29 Jan 2005 9:31 am, Zed Shaw wrote: >> >>> Under Windows and Linux I either use the Armed Bear J editor, or I use >>> the FreeRIDE. >> >> >> I like to use Emacs on windows and linux ( if you have a mac get >> textmate ) >> it has a awesome ruby-mode thats made by Matz him self. You can also >> make >> cool macros to do auto completion and do a loads of cool stuff using >> semantic. >> >> xal: waiting for your reply :D >> >> -- >> Best Regards, >> Warren Brian Noronha. >> GNU (http://www.gnu.org.in) >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >
Amen! On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:04:18 -0200, Demetrius Nunes <demetrius-fDpYTK8McCzCdMRJFJuMdgh0onu2mTI+@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Oh boy, I would love to see a Windows port for TextMate... :( > > Jamie Orchard-Hays wrote: > > > I use Textmate and SubEthaEdit mostly. I find myself in SEE a lot and > > you can install its command-line utility, which is convenient. > > > > Jamie > > > > On Jan 29, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Warren Brian Noronha wrote: > > > >> On Saturday 29 Jan 2005 9:31 am, Zed Shaw wrote: > >> > >>> Under Windows and Linux I either use the Armed Bear J editor, or I use > >>> the FreeRIDE. > >> > >> > >> I like to use Emacs on windows and linux ( if you have a mac get > >> textmate ) > >> it has a awesome ruby-mode thats made by Matz him self. You can also > >> make > >> cool macros to do auto completion and do a loads of cool stuff using > >> semantic. > >> > >> xal: waiting for your reply :D > >> > >> -- > >> Best Regards, > >> Warren Brian Noronha. > >> GNU (http://www.gnu.org.in) > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rails mailing list > >> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
On Jan 29, 2005, at 3:07 AM, Tobias Luetke wrote:> Textmate is the best editor for the macHm dunno. I really like a lot of things they did but at the same time I feel like I am beta-testing a product. S.
On 29 Jan 2005, at 22:26, Stefan Arentz wrote:> On Jan 29, 2005, at 3:07 AM, Tobias Luetke wrote: > >> Textmate is the best editor for the mac > > Hm dunno. I really like a lot of things they did but at the same time > I feel like I am beta-testing a product.Open Source is a bit of an alien concept to a lot of guys writing code for OS X. Yes, I know what the obvious thing I could be doing to address that is. Give me time - patience young grasshopper. For what it''s worth, I disagree with the ''Pragmatic'' approach of learning one editor and using it for everything. I''m happy with the editor in OS X''s ''Mail'' for my mail now I''ve got used to it - I used to use vim in conjunction with mutt until recently. I use CopyWrite for my articles and ''proper'' writing, dip into vim or TextMate for coding, etc. and sometimes just use Word or TextEdit for other pieces of writing. I have been known to use ed to update config files where I''ve felt that was the best way to do it. In other words, I use the right tool for the job, or whichever tool I feel most comfortable with for a given task, and have no problem with using many different editors. Although I''m a vi guy at heart on a unix command line, I''m sure I would feel comfortable with emacs if I bothered learning it and at one point used pico for most of my blog writing. What I''d really like for OS X is a port of this: http://cream.sourceforge.net/ What it does to X-based or Windows-based vim builds is odd (it removes modes!), but worthwhile. Everything TextMate does and more, and it''s GPL. Installed on all my Windows and X machines. X on OS X sucks. Anyway, the first Ruby I ever played with was with a copy of cream and I found it a nice environment. Syntax highlighting, folds, and all the other stuff we want. Good stuff. Highly recommended for all Linux/Windows people out there. Oh, and with a quick tap of Esc, you''re in vi modes again. :-) -- Paul Robinson
Paul Robinson wrote:> On 29 Jan 2005, at 22:26, Stefan Arentz wrote: > >> On Jan 29, 2005, at 3:07 AM, Tobias Luetke wrote: >> >>> Textmate is the best editor for the mac >> >> >> Hm dunno. I really like a lot of things they did but at the same time >> I feel like I am beta-testing a product. > > > Open Source is a bit of an alien concept to a lot of guys writing code > for OS X. Yes, I know what the obvious thing I could be doing to > address that is. Give me time - patience young grasshopper. > > For what it''s worth, I disagree with the ''Pragmatic'' approach of > learning one editor and using it for everything. I''m happy with the > editor in OS X''s ''Mail'' for my mail now I''ve got used to it - I used > to use vim in conjunction with mutt until recently. I use CopyWrite > for my articles and ''proper'' writing, dip into vim or TextMate for > coding, etc. and sometimes just use Word or TextEdit for other pieces > of writing. I have been known to use ed to update config files where > I''ve felt that was the best way to do it. > > In other words, I use the right tool for the job, or whichever tool I > feel most comfortable with for a given task, and have no problem with > using many different editors. Although I''m a vi guy at heart on a unix > command line, I''m sure I would feel comfortable with emacs if I > bothered learning it and at one point used pico for most of my blog > writing. > > What I''d really like for OS X is a port of this: > > http://cream.sourceforge.net/ > > What it does to X-based or Windows-based vim builds is odd (it removes > modes!), but worthwhile. Everything TextMate does and more, and it''s > GPL. Installed on all my Windows and X machines. X on OS X sucks. > Anyway, the first Ruby I ever played with was with a copy of cream and > I found it a nice environment. Syntax highlighting, folds, and all the > other stuff we want. Good stuff. Highly recommended for all > Linux/Windows people out there. Oh, and with a quick tap of Esc, > you''re in vi modes again. :-) > > -- > Paul Robinson > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/railsYou guys might want to give jEdit (http://www.jedit.org) a try. Not too shabby, and its free. Twitch
On Jan 30, 2005, at 7:24 AM, James G. Stallings II wrote:> You guys might want to give jEdit (http://www.jedit.org) a try. Not > too shabby, and its free.This might sound odd, but I find myself either using text based tools (emacs) or real Cocoa apps. Even if something like jedit has really nice features, it is the non-standard widgets, the weird non-OSX GUI annoyences, the bad integration with the rest of the system (what, no spel checker in the code editor?) that make me delete those apps pretty quickly :-) TextMate shines in being a native app. I''ll give it a bit more time to evaluate :-) S.
my choice is jedit, too. i switched from windows to debian a year a go and was very happy to take my ide with me, because it''s java. jedit has a spellchecker plugin, witch relies on aspell. Am Sonntag, den 30.01.2005, 12:22 +0100 schrieb Stefan Arentz:> On Jan 30, 2005, at 7:24 AM, James G. Stallings II wrote: > > > You guys might want to give jEdit (http://www.jedit.org) a try. Not > > too shabby, and its free. > > This might sound odd, but I find myself either using text based tools > (emacs) or real Cocoa apps. Even if something like jedit has really > nice features, it is the non-standard widgets, the weird non-OSX GUI > annoyences, the bad integration with the rest of the system (what, no > spel checker in the code editor?) that make me delete those apps pretty > quickly :-) > > TextMate shines in being a native app. I''ll give it a bit more time to > evaluate :-) > > S. > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Norman Timmler Holländische Reihe 31 22765 Hamburg +49 (0)40 / 43 25 10 80 mailto:norman-QkIQCVqxERM@public.gmane.org
Stefan Arentz wrote:> > On Jan 30, 2005, at 7:24 AM, James G. Stallings II wrote: > >> You guys might want to give jEdit (http://www.jedit.org) a try. Not >> too shabby, and its free. > > > This might sound odd, but I find myself either using text based tools > (emacs) or real Cocoa apps. Even if something like jedit has really > nice features, it is the non-standard widgets, the weird non-OSX GUI > annoyences, the bad integration with the rest of the system (what, no > spel checker in the code editor?) that make me delete those apps > pretty quickly :-) > > TextMate shines in being a native app. I''ll give it a bit more time to > evaluate :-) > > S. > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/railsYou must have missed the part where it says most extended fuctionality is added by way of of a plugin manager. You know, things like spellcheck and new language syntax modules. I''m an expert with vi, have used it for years on linux/solaris and vi running in a mac terminal window is just nothing short of unsatifying. Jedit lets me edit multiple files visually, good copy and paste, autosaves, etc. I dunno why I''m evangelising it - just thought some of you might get some use out of it. Plus not having to shell out $$$ for it is a big feature where I live. Twitch
Two thumbs up for jEdit! I work in a WinDoze shop by day and find I am able to use jEdit anywhere. The number of plug-ins offered by its community is huge. You will find your needs met if you are looking for a cross-platform solution. However, as a long time Mac user, I find myself relying on BBEdit when I want to work on my beloved Mac OS X. I have to admit that I have looked at Textmate briefly, however, I immediately jumped back to BBEdit. Maybe one day I will give it a fair trial run. In the meantime, if you are looking to keep expenses to the minimum, TextWangler is worth checking out: http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ Rob E. Barksdale James G. Stallings II wrote:> Stefan Arentz wrote: > >> >> On Jan 30, 2005, at 7:24 AM, James G. Stallings II wrote: >> >>> You guys might want to give jEdit (http://www.jedit.org) a try. Not >>> too shabby, and its free. >> >> >> >> This might sound odd, but I find myself either using text based tools >> (emacs) or real Cocoa apps. Even if something like jedit has really >> nice features, it is the non-standard widgets, the weird non-OSX GUI >> annoyences, the bad integration with the rest of the system (what, no >> spel checker in the code editor?) that make me delete those apps >> pretty quickly :-) >> >> TextMate shines in being a native app. I''ll give it a bit more time >> to evaluate :-) >> >> S. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > You must have missed the part where it says most extended fuctionality > is added by way of of a plugin manager. You know, things like > spellcheck and new language syntax modules. > > I''m an expert with vi, have used it for years on linux/solaris and vi > running in a mac terminal window is just nothing short of unsatifying. > Jedit lets me edit multiple files visually, good copy and paste, > autosaves, etc. I dunno why I''m evangelising it - just thought some of > you might get some use out of it. Plus not having to shell out $$$ for > it is a big feature where I live. > > Twitch > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
That''s funny to me because whenever I use BBEdit (or TextWrangler) I always end up going back to my other editors. It always feels kind of clunky to me because it''s style of doing things doesn''t feel natural to me. It''s a wonderful thing that there are so many choices around to meet so many different expectations. Jamie On Jan 30, 2005, at 12:16 PM, Rob E. Barksdale wrote:> Two thumbs up for jEdit! > > I work in a WinDoze shop by day and find I am able to use jEdit > anywhere. The number of plug-ins offered by its community is huge. > You will find your needs met if you are looking for a cross-platform > solution. > > However, as a long time Mac user, I find myself relying on BBEdit when > I want to work on my beloved Mac OS X. I have to admit that I have > looked at Textmate briefly, however, I immediately jumped back to > BBEdit. Maybe one day I will give it a fair trial run. In the > meantime, if you are looking to keep expenses to the minimum, > TextWangler is worth checking out: > http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ > > Rob E. Barksdale >