Dear all, Instiki is by far the most popular Ruby application that is not a Ruby development tool. Arguably, it is the _only_ popular Ruby application for the masses today :) RubyForge download statistics say so. In the last few days it is shaping up (look at CVS HEAD) as a Rails application. This change deals with many problems in the original Instiki, and opens up some new opportunities (undoubtedly, creating some new problems, too :) If you want to contribute to this Ruby flagman, here is what you can do: 1. Checkout the current CVS HEAD, look at CONTROLLER_TESTS file and write tests for the actions marked as not covered. 2. If you have submitted a patch earlier, please consider resubmitting it against the current CVS. No major new features will be accepted (this would be for Instiki 2), but bug fixes and other small enhancements are most welcome. 3. I am particularly interested in changes that make Instiki an idiomatic ActionPack app (layouts, .rxml templates, extracting other controllers from WikiController, security and other aspects to filters, etc). 4. If you happen to be an Apple man, volunteer to build native Instiki Mac releases (myself, the last time I''ve laid my hands on a Mac was 1986). 5. Finally, if you happen to be Why the Lucky Stiff, please release RedCloth 3.0.1 :) Any other form of testing / fixing / constructive feedback about current CVS version is highly appreciated. To set expectations right, at the time of this writing CVS HEAD "works to some extent" - some features are broken (by ongoing porting, and the lack of automated tests at the controller level). Bottom line: Instiki is an active project again. Pitch in. Best regards, Alexey Verkhovsky P.S. By the way, if anyone is wondering what is going on with RForum. It''s more or less feature-complete. We are getting ready to migrate ruby-forum.org from phpBB to RForum in the next few weeks - to see how shall it cope with RealLife(TM).
Alexey- I''ll take a whack at the OS X stuff. I was curious why there wasn''t a new OS X build with 0.9.2, but now I understand why. I''ll see if I can''t get that taken care of ater tonight. Cheers, bs. On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:52:57 +0200, Alexey Verkhovsky <alex-vV7tgcE2N9Nhl2p70BpVqQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Dear all, > > Instiki is by far the most popular Ruby application that is not a Ruby > development tool. Arguably, it is the _only_ popular Ruby application > for the masses today :) RubyForge download statistics say so. In the > last few days it is shaping up (look at CVS HEAD) as a Rails > application. This change deals with many problems in the original > Instiki, and opens up some new opportunities (undoubtedly, creating some > new problems, too :) > > If you want to contribute to this Ruby flagman, here is what you can do: > > 1. Checkout the current CVS HEAD, look at CONTROLLER_TESTS file and > write tests for the actions marked as not covered. > 2. If you have submitted a patch earlier, please consider resubmitting > it against the current CVS. No major new features will be accepted (this > would be for Instiki 2), but bug fixes and other small enhancements are > most welcome. > 3. I am particularly interested in changes that make Instiki an > idiomatic ActionPack app (layouts, .rxml templates, extracting other > controllers from WikiController, security and other aspects to filters, > etc). > 4. If you happen to be an Apple man, volunteer to build native Instiki > Mac releases (myself, the last time I''ve laid my hands on a Mac was 1986). > 5. Finally, if you happen to be Why the Lucky Stiff, please release > RedCloth 3.0.1 :) > > Any other form of testing / fixing / constructive feedback about current > CVS version is highly appreciated. To set expectations right, at the > time of this writing CVS HEAD "works to some extent" - some features are > broken (by ongoing porting, and the lack of automated tests at the > controller level). > > Bottom line: Instiki is an active project again. Pitch in. > > Best regards, > Alexey Verkhovsky > > P.S. By the way, if anyone is wondering what is going on with RForum. > It''s more or less feature-complete. We are getting ready to migrate > ruby-forum.org from phpBB to RForum in the next few weeks - to see how > shall it cope with RealLife(TM). > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
I would love to help out. I''ve got the hardware (iBook) and software (XCode), but not the knowledge. If someone could direct me to the appropriate resources, I could fill this hole. On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:52:57 +0200, Alexey Verkhovsky <alex-vV7tgcE2N9Nhl2p70BpVqQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> 4. If you happen to be an Apple man, volunteer to build native Instiki > Mac releases (myself, the last time I''ve laid my hands on a Mac was 1986). > 5. Finally, if you happen to be Why the Lucky Stiff, please release > RedCloth 3.0.1 :) >
Patrick Spence wrote:>I would love to help out. I''ve got the hardware (iBook) and software >(XCode), but not the knowledge. If someone could direct me to the >appropriate resources, I could fill this hole. > > >>5. Finally, if you happen to be Why the Lucky Stiff, please release >>RedCloth 3.0.1 :) >> >>Filling the hole of being Why The Lucky Stiff? LOL, that''s a tall order :) Alex
Alexey Verkhovsky wrote:> Filling the hole of being Why The Lucky Stiff? LOL, that''s a tall > order :)Re your original question, I am clueless about Macs, but files for OSX distribution are in instiki/natives/osx. Alex
Ouch. Looks like I left in the wrong question :) For the record, that was for the Mac OS X binary, not to be Why. I am neither brilliant nor deranged enough to do that! On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 01:10:52 +0200, Alexey Verkhovsky <alex-vV7tgcE2N9Nhl2p70BpVqQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Patrick Spence wrote: > > >I would love to help out. I''ve got the hardware (iBook) and software > >(XCode), but not the knowledge. If someone could direct me to the > >appropriate resources, I could fill this hole. > > > > > >>5. Finally, if you happen to be Why the Lucky Stiff, please release > >>RedCloth 3.0.1 :) > >> > >> > Filling the hole of being Why The Lucky Stiff? LOL, that''s a tall order :) > > Alex >
Ben Schumacher wrote:> I''ll take a whack at the OS X stuff. I was curious why there wasn''t a > new OS X build with 0.9.2, but now I understand why. I''ll see if I > can''t get that taken care of ater tonight.I had some spare time, so I gave it a shot with the latest from CVS: http://seansantry.com/instiki/Instiki-2005-01-13.dmg Could a couple interested parties give it a test run for me? This is the first time I''ve built the Instiki desktop launcher, so I''d like a few testers to give it a shot before I contribute it to the project for wide release. - Sean
Sean Santry wrote:> Ben Schumacher wrote: > >> I''ll take a whack at the OS X stuff. I was curious why there wasn''t a >> new OS X build with 0.9.2, but now I understand why. I''ll see if I >> can''t get that taken care of ater tonight. > > I had some spare time, so I gave it a shot with the latest from CVS: > > http://seansantry.com/instiki/Instiki-2005-01-13.dmgSean, First of all, I am lookg forward to the outcome of your effort, and thanks a lot for it. As you have noticed yourself, the latest from CVS is in the middle of a port to ActionPack, and there were considerable changes in the directory structure (to make it look like a real Rails application). I would be highly surprized if an OSX build worked at all. Meantime, we need a 0.9.2 version on a Mac - it is a very useful upgrade, as it fixes the "rollbacks horror". This is tagged in Instiki CVS as v0_9_2. Or -D "2005-01-07 20:00:00" Since Ben Schumaher was the first to volunteer, I asked him to do it. But if you get there earlier - that''s just as fine. Thanks again! Best regards, Alex
Hey there - I tried out your osx build of instiki and I am sorry to say that it did not work for me. The icon did not even show up to bounce in the dock. When I double clicked it nothing happened. Is there something I''m missing? I''ll test any more builds you make though. And thanks for the effort. -Ezra On Jan 13, 2005, at 10:38 AM, Alexey Verkhovsky wrote:> Sean Santry wrote: > >> Ben Schumacher wrote: >> >>> I''ll take a whack at the OS X stuff. I was curious why there wasn''t a >>> new OS X build with 0.9.2, but now I understand why. I''ll see if I >>> can''t get that taken care of ater tonight. >> >> I had some spare time, so I gave it a shot with the latest from CVS: >> >> http://seansantry.com/instiki/Instiki-2005-01-13.dmg > > Sean, > > First of all, I am lookg forward to the outcome of your effort, and > thanks a lot for it. > > As you have noticed yourself, the latest from CVS is in the middle of > a port to ActionPack, and there were considerable changes in the > directory structure (to make it look like a real Rails application). I > would be highly surprized if an OSX build worked at all. > > Meantime, we need a 0.9.2 version on a Mac - it is a very useful > upgrade, as it fixes the "rollbacks horror". This is tagged in Instiki > CVS as v0_9_2. Or -D "2005-01-07 20:00:00" > > Since Ben Schumaher was the first to volunteer, I asked him to do it. > But if you get there earlier - that''s just as fine. > > Thanks again! > > Best regards, > Alex > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >-Ezra Zygmuntowicz Yakima Herald-Republic WebMaster 509-577-7732 ezra-gdxLOakOTQ9oetBuM9ipNAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:52:59AM -0800, Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote:> Hey there - > I tried out your osx build of instiki and I am sorry to say > that it did not work for me. The icon did not even show up to bounce in > the dock. When I double clicked it nothing happened. Is there something > I''m missing? I''ll test any more builds you make though. And thanks for > the effort. > -EzraSame here. I don''t know a thing about making a .app for OS X, but the directory /Users/santry is all over the place in the files, and trying to open the Mach-O executable directly yields this: ~ % /Users/scott/Desktop/Instiki.app/Contents/MacOS/Instiki; exit dyld: /Users/scott/Desktop/Instiki.app/Contents/MacOS/Instiki can''t open library: /Users/santry/Development/instiki/natives/osx/desktop_launcher/build/Instiki.build/Instiki.build/Objects-normal/ppc/libstdc++_ZeroLink.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2) Like I said, I don''t know a thing about making a .app, but maybe this is of some use. If not, just ignore :) Thanks -Scott _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Alexey Verkhovsky wrote:> As you have noticed yourself, the latest from CVS is in the middle of > a port to ActionPack, and there were considerable changes in the > directory structure (to make it look like a real Rails application). I > would be highly surprized if an OSX build worked at all.Hi Alexey - Yeah, once I saw the directory changes, I figured I''d get a head start on setting up builds for the future ActionPack-based versions of Instiki. There are a few code changes needed as well as changes to the build process, so it seemed like a worthwhile project.> Since Ben Schumaher was the first to volunteer, I asked him to do it. > But if you get there earlier - that''s just as fine.I just figured I''d try it out to see what I could learn and, hopefully along the way produce a useful build. Not trying to step on anyone''s toes :-) - Sean
I''ve got a version of v0.9.2 that should work on other boxes. Took some tweaking of the .xcode project (gah... who puts absolute paths into a build script in CVS??). Anybody can feel free to give it a whirl. Grab it from: http://hiro.blahr.com/dev/instiki-0.9.2.dmg Cheers, Ben On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:10:32 -0500, Scott Barron <scott-HDQKq3lYuGDk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:52:59AM -0800, Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote: > > Hey there - > > I tried out your osx build of instiki and I am sorry to say > > that it did not work for me. The icon did not even show up to bounce in > > the dock. When I double clicked it nothing happened. Is there something > > I''m missing? I''ll test any more builds you make though. And thanks for > > the effort. > > -Ezra > > Same here. I don''t know a thing about making a .app for OS X, but the > directory /Users/santry is all over the place in the files, and trying > to open the Mach-O executable directly yields this: > > ~ % /Users/scott/Desktop/Instiki.app/Contents/MacOS/Instiki; exit > dyld: /Users/scott/Desktop/Instiki.app/Contents/MacOS/Instiki can''t open > library: > /Users/santry/Development/instiki/natives/osx/desktop_launcher/build/Instiki.build/Instiki.build/Objects-normal/ppc/libstdc++_ZeroLink.dylib > (No such file or directory, errno = 2) > > Like I said, I don''t know a thing about making a .app, but maybe this is > of some use. If not, just ignore :) > > Thanks > -Scott > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > >
Heh... FYI. Upload is going kinda slow right now, so it won''t be there for probably around :30 minutes. Sorry about that. Don''t know why my connection is lagging so much right now. On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:32:59 -0700, Ben Schumacher <benschumacher-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I''ve got a version of v0.9.2 that should work on other boxes. Took > some tweaking of the .xcode project (gah... who puts absolute paths > into a build script in CVS??). Anybody can feel free to give it a > whirl. Grab it from: > > http://hiro.blahr.com/dev/instiki-0.9.2.dmg > > Cheers, > > Ben > > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:10:32 -0500, Scott Barron <scott-HDQKq3lYuGDk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:52:59AM -0800, Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote: > > > Hey there - > > > I tried out your osx build of instiki and I am sorry to say > > > that it did not work for me. The icon did not even show up to bounce in > > > the dock. When I double clicked it nothing happened. Is there something > > > I''m missing? I''ll test any more builds you make though. And thanks for > > > the effort. > > > -Ezra > > > > Same here. I don''t know a thing about making a .app for OS X, but the > > directory /Users/santry is all over the place in the files, and trying > > to open the Mach-O executable directly yields this: > > > > ~ % /Users/scott/Desktop/Instiki.app/Contents/MacOS/Instiki; exit > > dyld: /Users/scott/Desktop/Instiki.app/Contents/MacOS/Instiki can''t open > > library: > > /Users/santry/Development/instiki/natives/osx/desktop_launcher/build/Instiki.build/Instiki.build/Objects-normal/ppc/libstdc++_ZeroLink.dylib > > (No such file or directory, errno = 2) > > > > Like I said, I don''t know a thing about making a .app, but maybe this is > > of some use. If not, just ignore :) > > > > Thanks > > -Scott > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > >
Scott Barron wrote:> On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:52:59AM -0800, Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote: >> Hey there - >> I tried out your osx build of instiki and I am sorry to say >> that it did not work for me. The icon did not even show up to bounce >> in >> the dock. When I double clicked it nothing happened. Is there >> something >> I''m missing? I''ll test any more builds you make though. And thanks for >> the effort. >> -Ezra > > Same here. I don''t know a thing about making a .app for OS X, but the > directory /Users/santry is all over the place in the files, and trying > to open the Mach-O executable directly yields this:Thanks guys. It seems I accidentally packaged up the "Development" build instead of the "Deployment" build, so there were a bunch of problems. Is it ok if I contact you guys off-list to coordinate another test round? Don''t want to flood these nice rails folks with too much OT chat :-) - Sean
Sean- Feel free to contact me off list to test your osx builds. -Ezra On Jan 13, 2005, at 11:35 AM, Sean Santry wrote:> Scott Barron wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:52:59AM -0800, Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote: >>> Hey there - >>> I tried out your osx build of instiki and I am sorry to say >>> that it did not work for me. The icon did not even show up to bounce >>> in >>> the dock. When I double clicked it nothing happened. Is there >>> something >>> I''m missing? I''ll test any more builds you make though. And thanks >>> for >>> the effort. >>> -Ezra >> >> Same here. I don''t know a thing about making a .app for OS X, but the >> directory /Users/santry is all over the place in the files, and trying >> to open the Mach-O executable directly yields this: > > Thanks guys. It seems I accidentally packaged up the "Development" > build instead of the "Deployment" build, so there were a bunch of > problems. Is it ok if I contact you guys off-list to coordinate > another test round? Don''t want to flood these nice rails folks with > too much OT chat :-) > > - Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >-Ezra Zygmuntowicz Yakima Herald-Republic WebMaster 509-577-7732 ezra-gdxLOakOTQ9oetBuM9ipNAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
I''m also (somewhat) available for testing, and hopefully at some point, contributing to an OS X build. On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:35:29 -0500, Sean Santry <rails-6SqCC7WXOXpVtazZjgo0Tw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Scott Barron wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:52:59AM -0800, Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote: > >> Hey there - > >> I tried out your osx build of instiki and I am sorry to say > >> that it did not work for me. The icon did not even show up to bounce > >> in > >> the dock. When I double clicked it nothing happened. Is there > >> something > >> I''m missing? I''ll test any more builds you make though. And thanks for > >> the effort. > >> -Ezra > > > > Same here. I don''t know a thing about making a .app for OS X, but the > > directory /Users/santry is all over the place in the files, and trying > > to open the Mach-O executable directly yields this: > > Thanks guys. It seems I accidentally packaged up the "Development" > build instead of the "Deployment" build, so there were a bunch of > problems. Is it ok if I contact you guys off-list to coordinate another > test round? Don''t want to flood these nice rails folks with too much OT > chat :-) > > - Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >