Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas
2012-Jul-20 17:20 UTC
Could we add a new list for engines developers?
It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core list. In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins developers? This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such a list could be pretty useful for gem authors. Would that be wanted? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
+1 Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas <rr.rosas@gmail.com> wrote:> It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core list. > > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins developers? > > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such a > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. > > Would that be wanted?-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very active or are dead. -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in rails-talk first On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tutecosta@gmail.com> wrote:> +1 > > Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code > and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas > <rr.rosas@gmail.com> wrote: > > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core > list. > > > > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for > > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins > developers? > > > > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that > > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such > a > > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. > > > > Would that be wanted? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
rails-talk is a ghetto. A new engines list would be best. On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote:> Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very active or are dead. > > -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in rails-talk first > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tutecosta@gmail.com (mailto:tutecosta@gmail.com)> wrote: > > +1 > > > > Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code > > and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas > > <rr.rosas@gmail.com (mailto:rr.rosas@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core list. > > > > > > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for > > > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins developers? > > > > > > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that > > > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such a > > > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. > > > > > > Would that be wanted? > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com). > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com). > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
Here''s a past one... http://www.mail-archive.com/engine-users@lists.rails-engines.org/ dead! On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener@gmail.com> wrote:> rails-talk is a ghetto. > > A new engines list would be best. > > On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > > Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very active or > are dead. > > -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in rails-talk > first > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tutecosta@gmail.com> wrote: > > +1 > > Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code > and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas > <rr.rosas@gmail.com> wrote: > > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core > list. > > > > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for > > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins > developers? > > > > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that > > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such > a > > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. > > > > Would that be wanted? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
Pedro Nascimento
2012-Jul-21 07:13 UTC
Re: Could we add a new list for engines developers?
Which makes me think about it: What could we do to better improve rails lists organization in a way that would benefit most out of it? While I agree that a Rails engine/plugin mailing list is useful, perhaps forking Rails-talk into specific categories, even if keeping a general rails-talk mailing list would benefit our general usage and understanding of where should we ask something specific. This mimics some IRC channels splitting strategies when the number of users talking generally about several stuff, like our rails-talk list, can lead to difficulty into separating noise from sound. rails-talk can still exits for most newcomers, but we would have the ability to redirect their questions to people more aware of their path to solve the problem. i can clearly separate Engines, Railties and Assets for new mailing lists. What do you think? On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Andrew Kaspick <akaspick@gmail.com> wrote:> Here''s a past one... > > http://www.mail-archive.com/engine-users@lists.rails-engines.org/ > > dead! > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener@gmail.com>wrote: > >> rails-talk is a ghetto. >> >> A new engines list would be best. >> >> On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: >> >> Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very active >> or are dead. >> >> -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in rails-talk >> first >> >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tutecosta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code >> and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas >> <rr.rosas@gmail.com> wrote: >> > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core >> list. >> > >> > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one >> for >> > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins >> developers? >> > >> > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions >> that >> > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think >> such a >> > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. >> > >> > Would that be wanted? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
+1 for the need for a Rails Engine specific list. There will be a windfall of questions about migrating to Engines because of the Rails 4 deprecation of plugins (according to this change log<http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2012/1/4/rails-3-2-0-rc2-has-been-released/> ). Since most questions will be implementation specific, probably best to keep off Rails core and categorize Rails-Talk (even if it is ghetto). On Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:13:23 AM UTC-4, Pedro Nascimento wrote:> > Which makes me think about it: What could we do to better improve rails > lists organization in a way that would benefit most out of it? > While I agree that a Rails engine/plugin mailing list is useful, perhaps > forking Rails-talk into specific categories, even if keeping a general > rails-talk mailing list would benefit our general usage and understanding > of where should we ask something specific. This mimics some IRC channels > splitting strategies when the number of users talking generally about > several stuff, like our rails-talk list, can lead to difficulty into > separating noise from sound. rails-talk can still exits for most newcomers, > but we would have the ability to redirect their questions to people more > aware of their path to solve the problem. > > i can clearly separate Engines, Railties and Assets for new mailing lists. > > What do you think? > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Andrew Kaspick <akaspick@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Here''s a past one... >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/engine-users@lists.rails-engines.org/ >> >> dead! >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> rails-talk is a ghetto. >>> >>> A new engines list would be best. >>> >>> On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: >>> >>> Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very active >>> or are dead. >>> >>> -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in >>> rails-talk first >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tutecosta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code >>> and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas >>> <rr.rosas@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core >>> list. >>> > >>> > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one >>> for >>> > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins >>> developers? >>> > >>> > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions >>> that >>> > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think >>> such a >>> > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. >>> > >>> > Would that be wanted? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >> > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-core/-/1V2MI3CzA-YJ. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
Yes, but engines kinda sucked before 3.1. Now a lot more people are using them. +1 for the list. On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote:> Here''s a past one... > > http://www.mail-archive.com/engine-users@lists.rails-engines.org/ > > dead! > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener@gmail.com> wrote: > rails-talk is a ghetto. > > A new engines list would be best. > On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > >> Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very active or are dead. >> >> -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in rails-talk first >> >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tutecosta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> +1 >>> >>> Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code >>> and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas >>> <rr.rosas@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core list. >>> > >>> > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for >>> > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins developers? >>> > >>> > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that >>> > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such a >>> > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. >>> > >>> > Would that be wanted? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.Cumprimentos, Luís Ferreira -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
All this talk of categorization sounds almost like there should be some kind of Rails forum for discussing things in, rather than isolated mailing lists. There''s an engine for that. https://github.com/radar/forem On Sunday, 22 July 2012 at 5:36 AM, Luís Ferreira wrote:> Yes, but engines kinda sucked before 3.1. Now a lot more people are using them. > > +1 for the list. > On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > > Here''s a past one... > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/engine-users@lists.rails-engines.org/ > > > > dead! > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener@gmail.com (mailto:radarlistener@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > rails-talk is a ghetto. > > > > > > A new engines list would be best. > > > > > > On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > > > > > > > Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very active or are dead. > > > > > > > > -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in rails-talk first > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tutecosta@gmail.com (mailto:tutecosta@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code > > > > > and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas > > > > > <rr.rosas@gmail.com (mailto:rr.rosas@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core list. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for > > > > > > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins developers? > > > > > > > > > > > > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that > > > > > > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such a > > > > > > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. > > > > > > > > > > > > Would that be wanted? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com). > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com). > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com). > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com). > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > Cumprimentos, > Luís Ferreira > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com). > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
+1 for the forum idea. On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener@gmail.com> wrote:> All this talk of categorization sounds almost like there should be some > kind of Rails forum for discussing things in, rather than isolated mailing > lists. > > There''s an engine for that. https://github.com/radar/forem > > On Sunday, 22 July 2012 at 5:36 AM, Luís Ferreira wrote: > > Yes, but engines kinda sucked before 3.1. Now a lot more people are using > them. > > +1 for the list. > On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > > Here''s a past one... > > http://www.mail-archive.com/engine-users@lists.rails-engines.org/ > > dead! > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener@gmail.com>wrote: > > rails-talk is a ghetto. > > A new engines list would be best. > > On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > > Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very active or > are dead. > > -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in rails-talk > first > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tutecosta@gmail.com> wrote: > > +1 > > Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code > and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas > <rr.rosas@gmail.com> wrote: > > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core > list. > > > > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for > > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins > developers? > > > > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that > > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such > a > > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. > > > > Would that be wanted? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > Cumprimentos, > Luís Ferreira > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas
2012-Jul-23 14:48 UTC
Re: Could we add a new list for engines developers?
A forum is not as effective as mailing lists for people like me. Usually you will only access a forum for asking questions and not to reply to them. This also makes it less likely that your question will be answered. In a mailing list you''ll see all messages that comes through them. Eventually you''ll see a question that you''re able to reply even though your main interest in the list is making questions instead of answering them. I have searched for "engine" in the Rails-talk list and I found that that list is probably not very effective for such subject: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/PqCTofRUSrM/ZXmbOmB_368J <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/PqCTofRUSrM/ZXmbOmB_368J> ( app-prefix for tasks defined in an engine?! - no answers) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/XvrZOOcsmD8/6sAQjLWB1QcJ <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/XvrZOOcsmD8/6sAQjLWB1QcJ> (self replied) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/OkE9zq5APVQ/6IgaWmZIirUJ <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/OkE9zq5APVQ/6IgaWmZIirUJ> (same) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/iMDlv-U5Kyc/r1uvnconwlIJ <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/iMDlv-U5Kyc/r1uvnconwlIJ> (no answers) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/b_gStTqQXvA/vQNSqsF2muIJ <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/b_gStTqQXvA/vQNSqsF2muIJ> (no answers) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/1IofgiCKbUQ/69eaQeOGvG8J <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/1IofgiCKbUQ/69eaQeOGvG8J> (no answers) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/5T0g8ADL_4w/4BgZItDw260J <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/5T0g8ADL_4w/4BgZItDw260J> (no answers) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/K6cgyimLb5Y/2YlNZPsPFM4J <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/K6cgyimLb5Y/2YlNZPsPFM4J> (no answers) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/JpLBcLhu2PA/p4-xpg6iC2cJ <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/JpLBcLhu2PA/p4-xpg6iC2cJ> (no answers) This is pretty typical in Rails-talk and I''d say this would represent about 80% of the top results for "engine" search in that group. And there is a lot of regular questions like database modeling, validations, etc there too. I still think that a focused mailing list on Engines or more advanced stuff could be interesting for dealing with experienced Rails developers. You will also find by looking at that group that the people that are most likely to be the ones that know best the answers are not subscribed to rails-talk but to rails-core only. Lots of them don''t even seem to be subscribed to rails-core even and I''d suspect the core members have a separate mailing list or other means of communicating between themselves. That is why I think a focused general questions list about advanced subjects could be interesting. I hope you understand what I mean. Cheers, Rodrigo. Em 22-07-2012 20:32, Ryan Bigg escreveu:> All this talk of categorization sounds almost like there should be > some kind of Rails forum for discussing things in, rather than > isolated mailing lists. > > There''s an engine for that. https://github.com/radar/forem > > On Sunday, 22 July 2012 at 5:36 AM, Luís Ferreira wrote: > >> Yes, but engines kinda sucked before 3.1. Now a lot more people are >> using them. >> >> +1 for the list. >> On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: >> >>> Here''s a past one... >>> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/engine-users@lists.rails-engines.org/ >>> >>> dead! >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarlistener@gmail.com >>> <mailto:radarlistener@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> rails-talk is a ghetto. >>>> >>>> A new engines list would be best. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very >>>>> active or are dead. >>>>> >>>>> -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in >>>>> rails-talk first >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tutecosta@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:tutecosta@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> +1 >>>>>> >>>>>> Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code >>>>>> and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas >>>>>> <rr.rosas@gmail.com <mailto:rr.rosas@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or >>>>>> Rails-core list. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we >>>>>> had one for >>>>>> > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins >>>>>> developers? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related >>>>>> questions that >>>>>> > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I >>>>>> think such a >>>>>> > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Would that be wanted?-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. 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@Rodrigo et all - any further thoughts on actionable items? @RyanBigg - does Forum have email based forum replies? -weston On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:48:09 AM UTC-4, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote:> > A forum is not as effective as mailing lists for people like me. > > Usually you will only access a forum for asking questions and not to reply > to them. This also makes it less likely that your question will be answered. > > In a mailing list you''ll see all messages that comes through them. > Eventually you''ll see a question that you''re able to reply even though your > main interest in the list is making questions instead of answering them. > > I have searched for "engine" in the Rails-talk list and I found that that > list is probably not very effective for such subject: > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/PqCTofRUSrM/ZXmbOmB_368J( app-prefix for tasks defined in an engine?! - no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/XvrZOOcsmD8/6sAQjLWB1QcJ(self replied) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/OkE9zq5APVQ/6IgaWmZIirUJ(same) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/iMDlv-U5Kyc/r1uvnconwlIJ(no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/b_gStTqQXvA/vQNSqsF2muIJ(no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/1IofgiCKbUQ/69eaQeOGvG8J(no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/5T0g8ADL_4w/4BgZItDw260J(no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/K6cgyimLb5Y/2YlNZPsPFM4J(no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/JpLBcLhu2PA/p4-xpg6iC2cJ(no answers) > > This is pretty typical in Rails-talk and I''d say this would represent > about 80% of the top results for "engine" search in that group. > > And there is a lot of regular questions like database modeling, > validations, etc there too. > > I still think that a focused mailing list on Engines or more advanced > stuff could be interesting for dealing with experienced Rails developers. > > You will also find by looking at that group that the people that are most > likely to be the ones that know best the answers are not subscribed to > rails-talk but to rails-core only. > > Lots of them don''t even seem to be subscribed to rails-core even and I''d > suspect the core members have a separate mailing list or other means of > communicating between themselves. > > That is why I think a focused general questions list about advanced > subjects could be interesting. > > I hope you understand what I mean. > > Cheers, > Rodrigo. > > Em 22-07-2012 20:32, Ryan Bigg escreveu: > > All this talk of categorization sounds almost like there should be some > kind of Rails forum for discussing things in, rather than isolated mailing > lists. > > There''s an engine for that. https://github.com/radar/forem > > On Sunday, 22 July 2012 at 5:36 AM, Luís Ferreira wrote: > > Yes, but engines kinda sucked before 3.1. Now a lot more people are > using them. > > +1 for the list. > On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > > Here''s a past one... > > http://www.mail-archive.com/engine-users@lists.rails-engines.org/ > > dead! > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarl...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > > rails-talk is a ghetto. > > A new engines list would be best. > > On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > > Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very active > or are dead. > > -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in rails-talk > first > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tute...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote: > > +1 > > Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code > and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas > <rr.r...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: > > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core > list. > > > > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for > > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins > developers? > > > > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that > > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such > a > > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. > > > > Would that be wanted? > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. 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No, Forem doesn''t have email based forum replies. You would need to set up some kind of SMTP receiver for that (or use a service like SendGrid which supports it) On Tuesday, 28 August 2012 at 6:28 PM, Weston Platter wrote:> @Rodrigo et all - any further thoughts on actionable items? > > @RyanBigg - does Forum have email based forum replies? > > -weston > > > On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:48:09 AM UTC-4, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote: > > A forum is not as effective as mailing lists for people like me. > > > > Usually you will only access a forum for asking questions and not to reply to them. This also makes it less likely that your question will be answered. > > > > In a mailing list you''ll see all messages that comes through them. Eventually you''ll see a question that you''re able to reply even though your main interest in the list is making questions instead of answering them. > > > > I have searched for "engine" in the Rails-talk list and I found that that list is probably not very effective for such subject: > > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/PqCTofRUSrM/ZXmbOmB_368J (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/PqCTofRUSrM/ZXmbOmB_368J) ( app-prefix for tasks defined in an engine?! - no answers) > > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/XvrZOOcsmD8/6sAQjLWB1QcJ (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/XvrZOOcsmD8/6sAQjLWB1QcJ) (self replied) > > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/OkE9zq5APVQ/6IgaWmZIirUJ (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/OkE9zq5APVQ/6IgaWmZIirUJ) (same) > > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/iMDlv-U5Kyc/r1uvnconwlIJ (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/iMDlv-U5Kyc/r1uvnconwlIJ) (no answers) > > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/b_gStTqQXvA/vQNSqsF2muIJ (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/b_gStTqQXvA/vQNSqsF2muIJ) (no answers) > > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/1IofgiCKbUQ/69eaQeOGvG8J (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/1IofgiCKbUQ/69eaQeOGvG8J) (no answers) > > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/5T0g8ADL_4w/4BgZItDw260J (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/5T0g8ADL_4w/4BgZItDw260J) (no answers) > > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/K6cgyimLb5Y/2YlNZPsPFM4J (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/K6cgyimLb5Y/2YlNZPsPFM4J) (no answers) > > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/JpLBcLhu2PA/p4-xpg6iC2cJ (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/JpLBcLhu2PA/p4-xpg6iC2cJ) (no answers) > > > > This is pretty typical in Rails-talk and I''d say this would represent about 80% of the top results for "engine" search in that group. > > > > And there is a lot of regular questions like database modeling, validations, etc there too. > > > > I still think that a focused mailing list on Engines or more advanced stuff could be interesting for dealing with experienced Rails developers. > > > > You will also find by looking at that group that the people that are most likely to be the ones that know best the answers are not subscribed to rails-talk but to rails-core only. > > > > Lots of them don''t even seem to be subscribed to rails-core even and I''d suspect the core members have a separate mailing list or other means of communicating between themselves. > > > > That is why I think a focused general questions list about advanced subjects could be interesting. > > > > I hope you understand what I mean. > > > > Cheers, > > Rodrigo. > > > > Em 22-07-2012 20:32, Ryan Bigg escreveu: > > > All this talk of categorization sounds almost like there should be some kind of Rails forum for discussing things in, rather than isolated mailing lists. > > > > > > There''s an engine for that. https://github.com/radar/forem > > > > > > On Sunday, 22 July 2012 at 5:36 AM, Luís Ferreira wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, but engines kinda sucked before 3.1. Now a lot more people are using them. > > > > > > > > +1 for the list. > > > > On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > > > > > Here''s a past one... > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/engine-users@lists.rails-engines.org/ > > > > > > > > > > dead! > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarl...@gmail.com (javascript:)> wrote: > > > > > > rails-talk is a ghetto. > > > > > > > > > > > > A new engines list would be best. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very active or are dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in rails-talk first > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tute...@gmail.com (javascript:)> wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code > > > > > > > > and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas > > > > > > > > <rr.r...@gmail.com (javascript:)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for > > > > > > > > > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins developers? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that > > > > > > > > > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such a > > > > > > > > > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would that be wanted? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-core/-/OfqBIkXpQRgJ. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core@googlegroups.com). > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com (mailto:rubyonrails-core+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. 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So Forum doesn''t support email based responses. Are there other solutions besides Google Groups? I like the idea of starting a Rails Engines specific Google Group. Input welcome. On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:41:42 PM UTC-4, Ryan Bigg wrote:> > No, Forem doesn''t have email based forum replies. You would need to set up > some kind of SMTP receiver for that (or use a service like SendGrid which > supports it) > > On Tuesday, 28 August 2012 at 6:28 PM, Weston Platter wrote: > > @Rodrigo et all - any further thoughts on actionable items? > > @RyanBigg - does Forum have email based forum replies? > > -weston > > > On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:48:09 AM UTC-4, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote: > > A forum is not as effective as mailing lists for people like me. > > Usually you will only access a forum for asking questions and not to reply > to them. This also makes it less likely that your question will be answered. > > In a mailing list you''ll see all messages that comes through them. > Eventually you''ll see a question that you''re able to reply even though your > main interest in the list is making questions instead of answering them. > > I have searched for "engine" in the Rails-talk list and I found that that > list is probably not very effective for such subject: > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/PqCTofRUSrM/ZXmbOmB_368J( app-prefix for tasks defined in an engine?! - no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/XvrZOOcsmD8/6sAQjLWB1QcJ(self replied) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/OkE9zq5APVQ/6IgaWmZIirUJ(same) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/iMDlv-U5Kyc/r1uvnconwlIJ(no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/b_gStTqQXvA/vQNSqsF2muIJ(no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/1IofgiCKbUQ/69eaQeOGvG8J(no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/5T0g8ADL_4w/4BgZItDw260J(no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/K6cgyimLb5Y/2YlNZPsPFM4J(no answers) > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/JpLBcLhu2PA/p4-xpg6iC2cJ(no answers) > > This is pretty typical in Rails-talk and I''d say this would represent > about 80% of the top results for "engine" search in that group. > > And there is a lot of regular questions like database modeling, > validations, etc there too. > > I still think that a focused mailing list on Engines or more advanced > stuff could be interesting for dealing with experienced Rails developers. > > You will also find by looking at that group that the people that are most > likely to be the ones that know best the answers are not subscribed to > rails-talk but to rails-core only. > > Lots of them don''t even seem to be subscribed to rails-core even and I''d > suspect the core members have a separate mailing list or other means of > communicating between themselves. > > That is why I think a focused general questions list about advanced > subjects could be interesting. > > I hope you understand what I mean. > > Cheers, > Rodrigo. > > Em 22-07-2012 20:32, Ryan Bigg escreveu: > > All this talk of categorization sounds almost like there should be some > kind of Rails forum for discussing things in, rather than isolated mailing > lists. > > There''s an engine for that. https://github.com/radar/forem > > On Sunday, 22 July 2012 at 5:36 AM, Luís Ferreira wrote: > > Yes, but engines kinda sucked before 3.1. Now a lot more people are > using them. > > +1 for the list. > On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > > Here''s a past one... > > http://www.mail-archive.com/engine-users@lists.rails-engines.org/ > > dead! > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Bigg <radarl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > rails-talk is a ghetto. > > A new engines list would be best. > > On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote: > > Engine lists have been created in the past, but they''re not very active > or are dead. > > -1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in rails-talk > first > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <tute...@gmail.com> wrote: > > +1 > > Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code > and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails. > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas > <rr.r...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core > list. > > > > In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for > > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins > developers? > > > > This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that > > would''t have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such > a > > list could be pretty useful for gem authors. > > > > Would that be wanted? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-core/-/OfqBIkXpQRgJ. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonra...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-co...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en. > > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. 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