R SIG Debian - Jan 2019 - r-api-3 with R 3.5.2. on Stretch: is there a workaround?

Now that I am at least mapping the right repository to my Debian version (doh!)
I have another question. In the installation page at
https://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/debian/#debian-stretch-stable there is the
line:

"Please note that R packages from the Debian stretch distribution are not
compatible with R 3.5.x, as it provides r-api-3.5, while the stretch packages
depend on r-api-3."

Certainly a number of packages won't install with Synaptic giving the
complaint about depending on r-api-3 and not having it, exactly as that line
says.  It seems that one package that gives this error, car, builds fine in R
with the usual install.packages("car") (after dealing with the curl
library dependency).

Am I right that the workaround is to install all the affected packages within R?
On the very slow old laptop I'm using for this work that is taking ages and
I'm guessing that had I been able to install the debs the installation would
have been much faster.

Is there a workaround or am I right that installing within R _is_ the
workaround?

TIA (again),

Chris


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Chris,

yes, the workaround is to install from within R. The alternative would be to 
increase the coverage of this repo, as currently mainly the recommended 
packages are supported. Another alternative would be to create a new, richer 
repo...

Kind regards,

Johannes

Am Montag, 21. Januar 2019, 13:45:52 CET schrieb Chris
Evans:
> Now that I am at least mapping the right repository to my Debian version
> (doh!) I have another question. In the installation page at
> https://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/debian/#debian-stretch-stable there is
> the line:
> 
> "Please note that R packages from the Debian stretch distribution are
not
> compatible with R 3.5.x, as it provides r-api-3.5, while the stretch
> packages depend on r-api-3."
> 
> Certainly a number of packages won't install with Synaptic giving the
> complaint about depending on r-api-3 and not having it, exactly as that
> line says.  It seems that one package that gives this error, car, builds
> fine in R with the usual install.packages("car") (after dealing
with the
> curl library dependency).
> 
> Am I right that the workaround is to install all the affected packages
> within R?  On the very slow old laptop I'm using for this work that is
> taking ages and I'm guessing that had I been able to install the debs
the
> installation would have been much faster.
> 
> Is there a workaround or am I right that installing within R _is_ the
> workaround?
> 
> TIA (again),
> 
> Chris

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Wissenschaftlicher Berater
https://jrwb.de/contact

Thanks for confirming Johannes.  I take it that the "new, richer ..."
option would be a lot of work.  I'm happy to let this old laptop grind
through.  There's the silver lining for me that when I did this
install.packages() for pretty much the same list of packages on the server it
ran through it pretty fast so it's nice that the laptop is reminding me how
fast the server is!

Very best to all,

Chris

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johannes Ranke" <johannes.ranke at jrwb.de>
> To: "r-sig-debian" <r-sig-debian at r-project.org>,
"Chris Evans" <chrishold at psyctc.org>
> Sent: Monday, 21 January, 2019 14:12:07
> Subject: Re: [R-sig-Debian] r-api-3 with R 3.5.2. on Stretch: is there a
workaround?
> Chris,
> 
> yes, the workaround is to install from within R. The alternative would be
to
> increase the coverage of this repo, as currently mainly the recommended
> packages are supported. Another alternative would be to create a new,
richer
> repo...
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Johannes
> 
> Am Montag, 21. Januar 2019, 13:45:52 CET schrieb Chris Evans:
>> Now that I am at least mapping the right repository to my Debian
version
>> (doh!) I have another question. In the installation page at
>> https://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/debian/#debian-stretch-stable
there is
>> the line:
>> 
>> "Please note that R packages from the Debian stretch distribution
are not
>> compatible with R 3.5.x, as it provides r-api-3.5, while the stretch
>> packages depend on r-api-3."
>> 
>> Certainly a number of packages won't install with Synaptic giving
the
>> complaint about depending on r-api-3 and not having it, exactly as that
>> line says.  It seems that one package that gives this error, car,
builds
>> fine in R with the usual install.packages("car") (after
dealing with the
>> curl library dependency).
>> 
>> Am I right that the workaround is to install all the affected packages
>> within R?  On the very slow old laptop I'm using for this work that
is
>> taking ages and I'm guessing that had I been able to install the
debs the
>> installation would have been much faster.
>> 
>> Is there a workaround or am I right that installing within R _is_ the
>> workaround?
>> 
>> TIA (again),
>> 
>> Chris
> 
> 
> --
> Johannes Ranke
> Wissenschaftlicher Berater
> https://jrwb.de/contact
-- 
Chris Evans <chris at psyctc.org> Skype: chris-psyctc
Visiting Professor, University of Sheffield <chris.evans at
sheffield.ac.uk>
I do some consultation work for the University of Roehampton <chris.evans at
roehampton.ac.uk> and other places but this <chris at psyctc.org>
remains my main Email address.
I have "semigrated" to France, see:
https://www.psyctc.org/pelerinage2016/semigrating-to-france/ if you want to book
to talk, I am trying to keep that to Thursdays and my diary is now available at:
https://www.psyctc.org/pelerinage2016/ecwd_calendar/calendar/
Beware: French time, generally an hour ahead of UK.  That page will also take
you to my blog which started with earlier joys in France and Spain!