R SIG Debian - Aug 2018 - ess 17.11-3 won't install on Ubuntu 16.04

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:43:52AM -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel
wrote:
> 
> On 20 August 2018 at 15:29, Eva Myers wrote:
> | Hello,
> | Attempting to install ess (17.11-3xenial0) on our Ubuntu 16.04 systems
> | is failing with an error message.
> 
> This can happen. I (with my Debian hat on) had to make 17.11-3 because the
> ess package did not behave with Debian untable and Emacs 26.2. It does now.
> 
> Changes can have side effects. Turn out that in this case 16.04 is
> affected. Your easiest recourse would be to not use this package, but the
> (much older) ESS from 16.04, or an older release (and then put it on
'hold'
> to supress updates).
> 
> There will be a newer elpa-ess which may work for you (or not). You could
try
> these:
> 
>   http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/tmp/elpa-ess_17.11-4_all.deb
>   http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/tmp/ess_17.11-4_all.deb
> 
> and you need both. "Works for me" on 18.04.  Not tested on 16.04.
YMMV.
Works for me on 16.04, thank you so much!
Eva.

On 21 August 2018 at 09:52, Eva Myers wrote:
| On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:43:52AM -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
| > 
| > On 20 August 2018 at 15:29, Eva Myers wrote:
| > | Hello,
| > | Attempting to install ess (17.11-3xenial0) on our Ubuntu 16.04 systems
| > | is failing with an error message.
| > 
| > This can happen. I (with my Debian hat on) had to make 17.11-3 because
the
| > ess package did not behave with Debian untable and Emacs 26.2. It does
now.
| > 
| > Changes can have side effects. Turn out that in this case 16.04 is
| > affected. Your easiest recourse would be to not use this package, but the
| > (much older) ESS from 16.04, or an older release (and then put it on
'hold'
| > to supress updates).
| > 
| > There will be a newer elpa-ess which may work for you (or not). You could
try
| > these:
| > 
| >   http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/tmp/elpa-ess_17.11-4_all.deb
| >   http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/tmp/ess_17.11-4_all.deb
| > 
| > and you need both. "Works for me" on 18.04.  Not tested on
16.04. YMMV.
| 
| Works for me on 16.04, thank you so much!

That's good to know. With that I will probably release this as 17.11-5 in
Debian, and it should find its way to the CRAN-mirrors too.

Dirk

| Eva.

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> On 20 August 2018 at 15:29, Eva Myers wrote:
> | Hello,
> | Attempting to install ess (17.11-3xenial0) on our Ubuntu 16.04 systems
> | is failing with an error message.
>
> This can happen. I (with my Debian hat on) had to make 17.11-3 because the
> ess package did not behave with Debian untable and Emacs 26.2. It does now.
>
> Changes can have side effects. Turn out that in this case 16.04 is
> affected. Your easiest recourse would be to not use this package, but the
> (much older) ESS from 16.04, or an older release (and then put it on
'hold'
> to supress updates).
>
> There will be a newer elpa-ess which may work for you (or not). You could
try
> these:
>
>   http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/tmp/elpa-ess_17.11-4_all.deb
>   http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/tmp/ess_17.11-4_all.deb
>
> and you need both. "Works for me" on 18.04.  Not tested on 16.04.
YMMV.
FWIW, I was able to fix this error in Ubuntu 16.04 by upgrading emacs to version
26.1. (I was previously using the version on the ubuntu repos, which was emacs
24.xx.)

Best,
Ed

On 21 August 2018 at 13:12, Merkle, Edgar C. wrote:
| 
| > On 20 August 2018 at 15:29, Eva Myers wrote:
| > | Hello,
| > | Attempting to install ess (17.11-3xenial0) on our Ubuntu 16.04 systems
| > | is failing with an error message.
| >
| > This can happen. I (with my Debian hat on) had to make 17.11-3 because
the
| > ess package did not behave with Debian untable and Emacs 26.2. It does
now.
| >
| > Changes can have side effects. Turn out that in this case 16.04 is
| > affected. Your easiest recourse would be to not use this package, but the
| > (much older) ESS from 16.04, or an older release (and then put it on
'hold'
| > to supress updates).
| >
| > There will be a newer elpa-ess which may work for you (or not). You could
try
| > these:
| >
| >   http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/tmp/elpa-ess_17.11-4_all.deb
| >   http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/tmp/ess_17.11-4_all.deb
| >
| > and you need both. "Works for me" on 18.04.  Not tested on
16.04. YMMV.
| 
| FWIW, I was able to fix this error in Ubuntu 16.04 by upgrading emacs to
version 26.1. (I was previously using the version on the ubuntu repos, which was
emacs 24.xx.)

That's what started all this -- a user of Emacs 26 in Debian unstable had a
problem.

Generally speaking I would recommend upgrading to 18.04 though.

Dirk

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