R SIG Debian - Mar 2016 - Outdated r-base-core when installing on Ubuntu 14.04

Ok, first I poked around the ubuntu tablet and related PPAs to see if I
could find one with an ARM port of R, but no luck. Next I tried a debian
install - jessie is supported on Crouton and it installs and runs basically
without a hitch. But I run into the same problem installing R - using only
a cran debian source and none of Rutter's PPAs. Now r-base-core is only
available up to 3.1.1-1. Attempting sudo apt-get install r-base=3.1.1-1
yields a complaint from apt that r-recommended 3.1.1-1 is needed but won't
be installed, though sudo apt-cache showpdg r-recommended shows 3.1.1-1 as
available.

This left me basically where I was with ubuntu, but I tried something here
that I didn't try there - I manually tried to install r-recommended
3.1.1-1. It complained about a dependency, so I manually tried installing
the right version of the dependency, which complained about a dependency,
etc, until I got something to install. Through this process here are the
things I installed, I believe in this order:

sudo apt-get install r-base-core=3.1.1-1
sudo apt-get install r-cran-boot=1.3-13-1
sudo apt-get install r-cran-codetools=0.2-9-1
sudo apt-get install r-recommended=3.1.1-1
sudo apt-get install r-base=3.1.1-1

This got R installed correctly. While it's still not the most updated
version, it's a version I can probably live with considering this isn't
my
main machine.

I'm going to try the same thing on the ubuntu install to see if I can get R
3.0.2 installed there - r-recommended 3.0.2 was available, so perhaps
manually installing the correct dependencies in order will get the job
done. I'll report back to say whether this worked either way.

Thanks for the help,
Matt

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Johannes Ranke <jranke at uni-bremen.de>
wrote:
>
> Am Montag, 21. M?rz 2016, 13:31:44 schrieb Dirk Eddelbuettel:
> > On 21 March 2016 at 13:18, Matthew Simpson wrote:
> > | It may be significant that my chromebook has an ARM processor. I
don't
> > | know
> > | about the details of how this works, but perhaps some pieces of the
R
> > | install haven't been ported to the appropriate architecture?
> >
> > Bahh. I am clearly not awake.  Should have realized that.
>
> Neither was I.
>
> >
> > That is why you had r-doc-html, r-recommended, ... etc which are
> binary=all.
> > On CRAN you will /only/ find i386 and amd64.  On the Ubuntu PPAs you
> /may/
> > find arm builds as Ubuntu supports them for their tablet plans etc pp.
>
> I am providing arm binaries for Debian wheezy and Debian jessie on CRAN,
> maybe
> this would be an option?
>
> Cheers, Johannes
>
> >
> > As such, the Dockerfile I sent you is more relevant than the CRAN
README.
> >
> > Good luck, Dirk
>
>
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On Ubuntu 14.04 the following commands worked to install R 3.0.2 (after
adding Rutter's PPA):

sudo apt-get install r-base-core
sudo apt-get install r-recommended=3.0.2-1ubuntu1
sudo apt-get install r-base=3.0.2-1ubuntu1

For anyone else trying to run R on a linux distro through Crouton on a
Chromebook: there is a catch for ubuntu - when installing packages in R,
the usual window that pops up asking which R mirror you want doesn't work.
Instead, it throws an error - probably related to whatever Crouton is doing
under the hood. You can manually specify the mirror with
install.packages(pkgname, repos = 'cran mirror') of course, but
that's
annoying and there is no such problem with Debian, so Debian > Ubuntu in
this case.

Matt

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Simpson <themattsimpson at
gmail.com>
wrote:
> Ok, first I poked around the ubuntu tablet and related PPAs to see if I
> could find one with an ARM port of R, but no luck. Next I tried a debian
> install - jessie is supported on Crouton and it installs and runs basically
> without a hitch. But I run into the same problem installing R - using only
> a cran debian source and none of Rutter's PPAs. Now r-base-core is only
> available up to 3.1.1-1. Attempting sudo apt-get install r-base=3.1.1-1
> yields a complaint from apt that r-recommended 3.1.1-1 is needed but
won't
> be installed, though sudo apt-cache showpdg r-recommended shows 3.1.1-1 as
> available.
>
> This left me basically where I was with ubuntu, but I tried something here
> that I didn't try there - I manually tried to install r-recommended
> 3.1.1-1. It complained about a dependency, so I manually tried installing
> the right version of the dependency, which complained about a dependency,
> etc, until I got something to install. Through this process here are the
> things I installed, I believe in this order:
>
> sudo apt-get install r-base-core=3.1.1-1
> sudo apt-get install r-cran-boot=1.3-13-1
> sudo apt-get install r-cran-codetools=0.2-9-1
> sudo apt-get install r-recommended=3.1.1-1
> sudo apt-get install r-base=3.1.1-1
>
> This got R installed correctly. While it's still not the most updated
> version, it's a version I can probably live with considering this
isn't my
> main machine.
>
> I'm going to try the same thing on the ubuntu install to see if I can
get
> R 3.0.2 installed there - r-recommended 3.0.2 was available, so perhaps
> manually installing the correct dependencies in order will get the job
> done. I'll report back to say whether this worked either way.
>
> Thanks for the help,
> Matt
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Johannes Ranke <jranke at
uni-bremen.de>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am Montag, 21. M?rz 2016, 13:31:44 schrieb Dirk Eddelbuettel:
>> > On 21 March 2016 at 13:18, Matthew Simpson wrote:
>> > | It may be significant that my chromebook has an ARM processor. I
don't
>> > | know
>> > | about the details of how this works, but perhaps some pieces of
the R
>> > | install haven't been ported to the appropriate architecture?
>> >
>> > Bahh. I am clearly not awake.  Should have realized that.
>>
>> Neither was I.
>>
>> >
>> > That is why you had r-doc-html, r-recommended, ... etc which are
>> binary=all.
>> > On CRAN you will /only/ find i386 and amd64.  On the Ubuntu PPAs
you
>> /may/
>> > find arm builds as Ubuntu supports them for their tablet plans etc
pp.
>>
>> I am providing arm binaries for Debian wheezy and Debian jessie on
CRAN,
>> maybe
>> this would be an option?
>>
>> Cheers, Johannes
>>
>> >
>> > As such, the Dockerfile I sent you is more relevant than the CRAN
>> README.
>> >
>> > Good luck, Dirk
>>
>>
>
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Regarding Debian jessie - it turned out that Matt uses the armhf 
architecture, while the arm binaries provided on CRAN are for armel.

Johannes


Ok, first I poked around the ubuntu tablet and related PPAs to see if I 
could find one with an ARM port of R, but no luck. Next I tried a debian 
install - jessie is supported on Crouton and it installs and runs basically 
without a hitch. But I run into the same problem installing R - using only a 
cran debian source and none of Rutter's PPAs. Now r-base-core is only 
available up to 3.1.1-1. Attempting sudo apt-get install r-base=3.1.1-1 
yields a complaint from apt that r-recommended 3.1.1-1 is needed but 
won't be installed, though sudo apt-cache showpdg r-recommended shows 
3.1.1-1 as available.


This left me basically where I was with ubuntu, but I tried something here 
that I didn't try there - I manually tried to install r-recommended 3.1.1-1.
It
complained about a dependency, so I manually tried installing the right 
version of the dependency, which complained about a dependency, etc, 
until I got something to install. Through this process here are the things I 
installed, I believe in this order:


sudo apt-get install r-base-core=3.1.1-1
sudo apt-get install r-cran-boot=1.3-13-1


sudo apt-get install r-cran-codetools=0.2-9-1


sudo apt-get install r-recommended=3.1.1-1


sudo apt-get install r-base=3.1.1-1


This got R installed correctly. While it's still not the most updated
version,
it's a version I can probably live with considering this isn't my main 
machine.


I'm going to try the same thing on the ubuntu install to see if I can get R 
3.0.2 installed there - r-recommended 3.0.2 was available, so perhaps 
manually installing the correct dependencies in order will get the job done. 
I'll report back to say whether this worked either way.


Thanks for the help,
Matt


On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Johannes Ranke <jranke at uni-
bremen.de[1]> wrote:










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On 21 March 2016 at 16:37, Matthew Simpson wrote:
| On Ubuntu 14.04 the following commands worked to install R 3.0.2 (after adding
| Rutter's PPA):
| 
| sudo apt-get install r-base-core
| sudo apt-get install r-recommended=3.0.2-1ubuntu1
| sudo apt-get install r-base=3.0.2-1ubuntu1
| 
| For anyone else trying to run R on a linux distro through Crouton on a
| Chromebook: there is a catch for ubuntu - when installing packages in R, the
| usual window that pops up asking which R mirror you want doesn't work.
Instead,
| it throws an error - probably related to whatever Crouton is doing under the
| hood. You can manually specify the mirror with install.packages(pkgname, repos
| = 'cran mirror') of course, but that's annoying and there is no
such problem
| with Debian, so Debian > Ubuntu in this case.

You can set this in ~/.Rprofile or /etc/R/Rprofile.site:

local({
    r <- getOption("repos")
    r["CRAN"] <- "https://cran.rstudio.com"
    options(repos = r)
})

( I tend to also set additional drat repositories so I also have
    r["eddelbuettel"] <-
"https://eddelbuettel.github.io/drat"
    r["ghrr"] <- "https://ghrr.github.io/drat"
in there but that is options. )

But having CRAN preset makes the question go away.

Dirk

| 
| Matt
| 
| On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Matthew Simpson <themattsimpson at
gmail.com>
| wrote:
| 
|     Ok, first I poked around the ubuntu tablet and related PPAs to see if I
|     could find one with an ARM port of R, but no luck. Next I tried a debian
|     install - jessie is supported on Crouton and it installs and runs
basically
|     without a hitch. But I run into the same problem installing R - using only
|     a cran debian source and none of Rutter's PPAs. Now r-base-core is
only
|     available up to 3.1.1-1. Attempting sudo apt-get install r-base=3.1.1-1
|     yields a complaint from apt that r-recommended 3.1.1-1 is needed but
won't
|     be installed, though sudo apt-cache showpdg r-recommended shows 3.1.1-1 as
|     available.
| 
|     This left me basically where I was with ubuntu, but I tried something here
|     that I didn't try there - I manually tried to install r-recommended
|     3.1.1-1. It complained about a dependency, so I manually tried installing
|     the right version of the dependency, which complained about a dependency,
|     etc, until I got something to install. Through this process here are the
|     things I installed, I believe in this order:
| 
|     sudo apt-get install r-base-core=3.1.1-1
|     sudo apt-get install r-cran-boot=1.3-13-1
|     sudo apt-get install r-cran-codetools=0.2-9-1
|     sudo apt-get install r-recommended=3.1.1-1
|     sudo apt-get install r-base=3.1.1-1
| 
|     This got R installed correctly. While it's still not the most updated
|     version, it's a version I can probably live with considering this
isn't my
|     main machine.
| 
|     I'm going to try the same thing on the ubuntu install to see if I can
get R
|     3.0.2 installed there - r-recommended 3.0.2 was available, so perhaps
|     manually installing the correct dependencies in order will get the job
|     done. I'll report back to say whether this worked either way.
| 
|     Thanks for the help,
|     Matt
| 
|     On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Johannes Ranke <jranke at
uni-bremen.de>
|     wrote:
| 
|        
|         Am Montag, 21. M?rz 2016, 13:31:44 schrieb Dirk Eddelbuettel:
|         > On 21 March 2016 at 13:18, Matthew Simpson wrote:
|         > | It may be significant that my chromebook has an ARM processor.
I
|         don't
|         > | know
|         > | about the details of how this works, but perhaps some pieces of
the
|         R
|         > | install haven't been ported to the appropriate
architecture?
|         >
|         > Bahh. I am clearly not awake.? Should have realized that.
| 
|         Neither was I.
|        
|         >
|         > That is why you had r-doc-html, r-recommended, ... etc which are
|         binary=all.
|         > On CRAN you will /only/ find i386 and amd64.? On the Ubuntu PPAs
you
|         /may/
|         > find arm builds as Ubuntu supports them for their tablet plans
etc
|         pp.
| 
|         I am providing arm binaries for Debian wheezy and Debian jessie on
|         CRAN, maybe
|         this would be an option?
| 
|         Cheers, Johannes
| 
|         >
|         > As such, the Dockerfile I sent you is more relevant than the CRAN
|         README.
|         >
|         > Good luck, Dirk
| 
| 
| 
| 
| 

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