R devel - Aug 2016 - What happened to Ross Ihaka's proposal for a Common Lisp based R successor?

Is it conceivable that Julia could be ported to use R syntax in a way that
would allow the vastly larger numbers of R programmers to seamlessly
switch? Or equivalently, could an iteration of R itself do this?

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016, 9:00 AM Hadley Wickham <h.wickham at gmail.com>
wrote:
> When it was being actively worked on, it had the advantage of existing.
>
> Hadley
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Kenny Bell <kmbell56 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Why is the described system preferable to Julia?
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016, 4:50 AM peter dalgaard <pdalgd at
gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 05 Aug 2016, at 06:41 , Andrew Judson <ajskim at
gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I read this paper
> >> >
<https://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~ihaka/downloads/Compstat-2008.pdf>
> and
> >> > haven't been able to find out what happened - I have seen
some
> sporadic
> >> > mention in message groups but nothing definitive. Does anyone
know?
> >>
> >> Presumably Ross does...
> >>
> >> You get a hint if you go one level up and look for the newest
file:
> >>
> >> https://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~ihaka/downloads/New-System.pdf
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
> >> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
> >> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
> >> Phone: (+45)38153501
> >> Office: A 4.23
> >> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk  Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________
> >> R-devel at r-project.org mailing list
> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
> >>
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>
>
>
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> http://hadley.nz
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No.

Hadley

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Kenny Bell <kmbell56 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Is it conceivable that Julia could be ported to use R syntax in a way that
> would allow the vastly larger numbers of R programmers to seamlessly
switch?
> Or equivalently, could an iteration of R itself do this?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016, 9:00 AM Hadley Wickham <h.wickham at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> When it was being actively worked on, it had the advantage of existing.
>>
>> Hadley
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Kenny Bell <kmbell56 at
gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Why is the described system preferable to Julia?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016, 4:50 AM peter dalgaard <pdalgd at
gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On 05 Aug 2016, at 06:41 , Andrew Judson <ajskim at
gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I read this paper
>> >> >
<https://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~ihaka/downloads/Compstat-2008.pdf>
>> >> > and
>> >> > haven't been able to find out what happened - I have
seen some
>> >> > sporadic
>> >> > mention in message groups but nothing definitive. Does
anyone know?
>> >>
>> >> Presumably Ross does...
>> >>
>> >> You get a hint if you go one level up and look for the newest
file:
>> >>
>> >>
https://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~ihaka/downloads/New-System.pdf
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
>> >> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
>> >> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
>> >> Phone: (+45)38153501
>> >> Office: A 4.23
>> >> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk  Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
>> >>
>> >> ______________________________________________
>> >> R-devel at r-project.org mailing list
>> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
>> >>
>> >
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>> >
>> > ______________________________________________
>> > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list
>> > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://hadley.nz


-- 
http://hadley.nz

But you can easily fall back to R from within Julia; see
http://juliastats.github.io/RCall.jl/latest/

On Aug 5, 2016 1:27 PM, "Hadley Wickham" <h.wickham at
gmail.com> wrote:
> No.
>
> Hadley
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Kenny Bell <kmbell56 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Is it conceivable that Julia could be ported to use R syntax in a way
> that
> > would allow the vastly larger numbers of R programmers to seamlessly
> switch?
> > Or equivalently, could an iteration of R itself do this?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016, 9:00 AM Hadley Wickham <h.wickham at
gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> When it was being actively worked on, it had the advantage of
existing.
> >>
> >> Hadley
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Kenny Bell <kmbell56 at
gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Why is the described system preferable to Julia?
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016, 4:50 AM peter dalgaard <pdalgd at
gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> On 05 Aug 2016, at 06:41 , Andrew Judson <ajskim at
gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I read this paper
> >> >> >
<https://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~ihaka/downloads/Compstat-
> 2008.pdf>
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > haven't been able to find out what happened - I
have seen some
> >> >> > sporadic
> >> >> > mention in message groups but nothing definitive.
Does anyone know?
> >> >>
> >> >> Presumably Ross does...
> >> >>
> >> >> You get a hint if you go one level up and look for the
newest file:
> >> >>
> >> >>
https://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~ihaka/downloads/New-System.pdf
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
> >> >> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
> >> >> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
> >> >> Phone: (+45)38153501
> >> >> Office: A 4.23
> >> >> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk  Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
> >> >>
> >> >> ______________________________________________
> >> >> R-devel at r-project.org mailing list
> >> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
> >> >>
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > ______________________________________________
> >> > R-devel at r-project.org mailing list
> >> > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://hadley.nz
>
>
>
> --
> http://hadley.nz
>
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