R devel - Oct 2012 - Licensing concerns in porting S-Plus code to R libraries

I used S-Plus for many years, and developed lots of code for my research.
When I switched to R a few years ago, I ported most of my S-Plus code over
to R for my own use. Now that some of this code is quite polished, I would
like to make it available as an R package on CRAN.

Some of my S-Plus code, however, was based on Insightful S-Plus functions;
for instance, I took a Trellis function, and modified to suit my needs. In
some cases the modifications are minor (e.g., adding extra functionality,
changing colors), while in other cases I've made substantial changes (e.g.,
a new function that just uses the techniques of the internal function).
Furthermore, in porting the code to R, I of course had to make further
changes (e.g., Trellis functions for lattice/grid functions, new C code to
replace internal S-Plus routines to which I did not have the source code).

I wondering if anyone can provide some guidance here as to what I can
release without running afoul of any user agreement that may have come with
S-Plus long ago. I'm assuming other package developers, especially those
that were S-Plus users long ago, have encountered this issue and can advise
me on what to do.

Many thanks,

Chris Green

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On 12-10-15 8:38 PM, Chris Green wrote:
> I used S-Plus for many years, and developed lots of code for my research.
> When I switched to R a few years ago, I ported most of my S-Plus code over
> to R for my own use. Now that some of this code is quite polished, I would
> like to make it available as an R package on CRAN.
>
> Some of my S-Plus code, however, was based on Insightful S-Plus functions;
> for instance, I took a Trellis function, and modified to suit my needs. In
> some cases the modifications are minor (e.g., adding extra functionality,
> changing colors), while in other cases I've made substantial changes
(e.g.,
> a new function that just uses the techniques of the internal function).
> Furthermore, in porting the code to R, I of course had to make further
> changes (e.g., Trellis functions for lattice/grid functions, new C code to
> replace internal S-Plus routines to which I did not have the source code).
>
> I wondering if anyone can provide some guidance here as to what I can
> release without running afoul of any user agreement that may have come with
> S-Plus long ago. I'm assuming other package developers, especially
those
> that were S-Plus users long ago, have encountered this issue and can advise
> me on what to do.
>
For the functions that just use the same techniques but are new code, 
you probably don't need to worry.  But for the ones that include 
non-trivial amounts of S-PLUS code, you probably need permission from 
the copyright holder to release them.

I would write to Tibco (the current owners of S-PLUS) and ask permission 
to release your functions under the GPL.  Include copyright notices for 
them as well as for yourself.  You should include copies of the 
functions that are based on their work, so they know how much you are 
asking for.

You can also offer to release them under some other open license, if 
they'd prefer that.

I have no idea how receptive they'll be to this offer, but I think it's 
worth a try.  If they say no, then you should rewrite (or better still, 
get someone else to rewrite, based on your specs) those functions that 
use their code so they're all new.

Duncan Murdoch

Hi Chris

Thanks for asking about this. In general, 3rd parties aren't allowed to
modify Insightful (now TIBCO) code and then re-release it under a different
license, since we own the copyright to the code. However, we strive to be strong
supporters of the R community, and to make contributions where we can, so
I'd be happy to discuss potentially giving you permission to do so. I'd
have to consult with our internal legal team on the details.

Please contact me directly at lbajuk at tibco.com so we can discuss.

Regards
Lou

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Lou Bajuk-Yorgan
Sr. Director, Product Management
Spotfire, TIBCO Software
lbajuk at tibco.com
Twitter: @LouBajuk

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> 
> I used S-Plus for many years, and developed lots of code for my research.
> When I switched to R a few years ago, I ported most of my S-Plus code 
> over to R for my own use. Now that some of this code is quite 
> polished, I would like to make it available as an R package on CRAN.
> 
> Some of my S-Plus code, however, was based on Insightful S-Plus 
> functions; for instance, I took a Trellis function, and modified to 
> suit my needs. In some cases the modifications are minor (e.g., adding 
> extra functionality, changing colors), while in other cases I've made 
> substantial changes (e.g., a new function that just uses the techniques of
the internal function).
> Furthermore, in porting the code to R, I of course had to make further 
> changes (e.g., Trellis functions for lattice/grid functions, new C 
> code to replace internal S-Plus routines to which I did not have the source
code).
> 
> I wondering if anyone can provide some guidance here as to what I can 
> release without running afoul of any user agreement that may have come 
> with S-Plus long ago. I'm assuming other package developers, 
> especially those that were S-Plus users long ago, have encountered this
issue and can advise me on what to do.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Chris Green
> 
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