Hi all, Being the glutton for self-inflicted punishment that I am, I did a clean install of F9 yesterday. :-) As it relates to R: 1. Building R from SVN: R version 2.7.0 Patched (2008-05-12 r45683) It builds and passes make check all without issue. F9 is using: gcc (GCC) 4.3.0 20080428 (Red Hat 4.3.0-8) 2. As was noted with F8, the lack of the Java-JavaScript bridge in the default IcedTea Java engine still precludes the functioning of the help.start() search engine. Note that the R java applet WILL start, but the actual search function will not execute. I had reported this for F8 last December in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=420781 but the key bug report to follow for updates will be: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=304021 In the mean time, one will need to install and use the Sun Java engine in order to get the R search engine to work properly. Other miscellaneous observations: 1. F9 is using a pre-release version of Xorg. As a consequence, those with nVidia cards are going to find themselves between a rock and a hard place since nVidia is not yet formally supporting this version. The only real option, which imposes no 3D graphics and no compositing (eg. CompizFusion) is to use the beta version (173.08) of the nVidia driver referenced here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=111460 Note that I could not get the patched versions of the current release driver for 2.6.25 kernels to work as is noted in other posts on NVNews. I have not yet figured out how to boot into 'init 5' successfully, as one needs to pass the '-ignoreABI' argument to X. I spent some time last night tracking through the startup scripts and searching through some posts with suggested fixes, but no joy yet. Thus, for the time being, I am booting to 'init 3' and using: startx -- -ignoreABI to get into X from the console. Note the use of the two sets of hyphens in the above. A double hyphen surrounded by spaces followed by the single hyphen and argument. The use of the -ignoreABI argument will enable X to start despite that lack of GLX and other module support, since the current ABI version would otherwise result in conflicts and errors. If you want to follow progress and the current flame wars over this situation, keep an eye on: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14 One option which has been noted in several forums is to revert F9 to the F8 version of Xorg and then be careful in using yum and its brethren when upgrading RPMS. Note to self: By a laptop with an Intel GPU next time... 2. F9 is also using a beta version of Firefox (version 3 beta 5). I had played around with it under F8 and it is notably faster than version 2. Many of the memory leaks have also been resolved. However, note that many of the extensions for Firefox (eg. Google toolbar) will not yet function with Firefox 3. 3. The good news is that the install went very well. Anaconda now supports install-time encryption of disk partitions, which makes this process easier. I ended up re-partitioning my drive to use LVM, so that I now have effectively two actual partitions, one for boot, which is in the clear and the other an LVM group which includes all other partitions and is encrypted. So far, other than the issues noted above, all seems stable so far. I think that covers the key issues. Fedora has definitely moved from leading edge to bleeding edge with the inclusion of pre-release versions of key components, so I would urge anyone without a strong stomach to hold off on the upgrade for a while. Regards, Marc Schwartz