before getting scolded for submitting a (non-)bug report: when using the 'symbols' function for plotting boxplot data (i.e. using 'boxplots' symbols), I noted that the x/y-position of the symbols is associated with the center of the box. while this is obviously natural for a usual plotting symbol (say a circle or a rectangle), it is probably never desired if one uses the 'boxplots' symbols: looking at such a plot, probably everyone will assume that y-position is that of the median within the box (in other words: that one can read off the values of the medians from the y-axis). the center of the box in a 'boxplots' symbol is not a very special point, generally. in short: I think 'symbols' with 'boxplots' should behave as 'boxplot' does with respect to the y-position. (this of course does make sense only, if you presume, that the user actually _did_ specify the median as the y-coordinate in the 'symbols' call -- but that seems the only natural choice in this case, right?) the current behaviour is counter-intuitive, I believe, if the distributions are asymmetrical (and the median is not centered in it's box). (I even think, that such plots are misinterpreted easily: think what happens if the median lies very near one of the hinges in one box and is centered in another one within the same plot and the medians are actually the same) in short: I think the 'boxplots' should not be centered at the specified y-coordinates but rather drawn with a y-coordinate of y + bxh * (0.5 - bxm) where bxh and bxm are the second (box height) and fifths (median as fraction of box height) column of the 'boxplots' matrix. in this way, the median position is identical to the specified y-coordinate. if such a change 'breaks' current usage, I would propose a further argument to 'symbols' to control the positioning behaviour (box center vs. median drawn at specified y-coordinate). at the very least, I think, the manpage should explicitely state that all symbols (including boxplots) are positioned with their geometrical center at the specified coordinates and that this might not be what the user wants for 'boxplots' (OK: I was looking at my data for quite some time until I noticed the source of my trouble. I would have appreciated such a remark :-)). regards, joerg