R devel - Oct 2005 - Rgnome depends on obsolete components libglade/libxml (PR#8247)

Full_Name: Hin-Tak Leung
Version: R 2.2.0
OS: x86 linux
Submission from: (NULL) (131.111.126.242)


Rgnome depends libglade 0.x and libxml 1.x .

They are no longer shipped with Redhat EL4.
(I know they are still in fedora core 4).

Just a wish-list.

hin-tak.leung at cimr.cam.ac.uk writes:
> Full_Name: Hin-Tak Leung
> Version: R 2.2.0
> OS: x86 linux
> Submission from: (NULL) (131.111.126.242)
> 
> 
> Rgnome depends libglade 0.x and libxml 1.x .
> 
> They are no longer shipped with Redhat EL4.
> (I know they are still in fedora core 4).
> 
> Just a wish-list.
But what is the wish? 

You mean get it upgraded to xml2 and glade2? Patches would likely be
accepted... 

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Peter Dalgaard wrote:
> hin-tak.leung at cimr.cam.ac.uk writes:
> 
> 
>>Full_Name: Hin-Tak Leung
>>Version: R 2.2.0
>>OS: x86 linux
>>Submission from: (NULL) (131.111.126.242)
>>
>>
>>Rgnome depends libglade 0.x and libxml 1.x .
>>
>>They are no longer shipped with Redhat EL4.
>>(I know they are still in fedora core 4).
>>
>>Just a wish-list.
> 
> 
> But what is the wish? 
> 
> You mean get it upgraded to xml2 and glade2? Patches would likely be
> accepted... 
> 
:-). libglade went from 0.17 to 1.99 then 2.x, but the current Rgnome 
code depends on some of <0.17-specific stuff.

Already tried against libglade 2 - not trivial. It probably also 
requires changing to gtk2 also...

Just like to have it in the distant TODO list, and not forgotten...

Hin-Tak Leung

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It is probably more sensible to rewrite this using the bindings
to Gtk+-2 and keep it purely in R so that we can more
readily customize the GUI.  There is a simple prototype in
the RGtk package and if anyone was interested, they can
do this with the soon to be released RGtk2 package.



Hin-Tak Leung wrote:
> Peter Dalgaard wrote:
> 
>>hin-tak.leung at cimr.cam.ac.uk writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Full_Name: Hin-Tak Leung
>>>Version: R 2.2.0
>>>OS: x86 linux
>>>Submission from: (NULL) (131.111.126.242)
>>>
>>>
>>>Rgnome depends libglade 0.x and libxml 1.x .
>>>
>>>They are no longer shipped with Redhat EL4.
>>>(I know they are still in fedora core 4).
>>>
>>>Just a wish-list.
>>
>>
>>But what is the wish? 
>>
>>You mean get it upgraded to xml2 and glade2? Patches would likely be
>>accepted... 
>>
> 
> 
> :-). libglade went from 0.17 to 1.99 then 2.x, but the current Rgnome 
> code depends on some of <0.17-specific stuff.
> 
> Already tried against libglade 2 - not trivial. It probably also 
> requires changing to gtk2 also...
> 
> Just like to have it in the distant TODO list, and not forgotten...
> 
> Hin-Tak Leung
> 
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It is probably more sensible to rewrite this using the bindings
to Gtk+-2 and keep it purely in R so that we can more
readily customize the GUI.  There is a simple prototype in
the RGtk package and if anyone was interested, they can
do this with the soon to be released RGtk2 package.



Hin-Tak Leung wrote:
> Peter Dalgaard wrote:
> 
>>hin-tak.leung at cimr.cam.ac.uk writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Full_Name: Hin-Tak Leung
>>>Version: R 2.2.0
>>>OS: x86 linux
>>>Submission from: (NULL) (131.111.126.242)
>>>
>>>
>>>Rgnome depends libglade 0.x and libxml 1.x .
>>>
>>>They are no longer shipped with Redhat EL4.
>>>(I know they are still in fedora core 4).
>>>
>>>Just a wish-list.
>>
>>
>>But what is the wish? 
>>
>>You mean get it upgraded to xml2 and glade2? Patches would likely be
>>accepted... 
>>
> 
> 
> :-). libglade went from 0.17 to 1.99 then 2.x, but the current Rgnome 
> code depends on some of <0.17-specific stuff.
> 
> Already tried against libglade 2 - not trivial. It probably also 
> requires changing to gtk2 also...
> 
> Just like to have it in the distant TODO list, and not forgotten...
> 
> Hin-Tak Leung
> 
> ______________________________________________
> R-devel at r-project.org mailing list
> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
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371 Kerr Hall                     fax:   (530) 752-7099
One Shields Ave.
University of California at Davis
Davis, CA 95616, USA
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Marc Schwartz (via MN) wrote:
<snipped>
> This brings us full circle to the whole GUI discussion taking place and
> so I'll leave it for that thread.
That's unfortunately correct. The three GUI's (out of the dozen listed 
at R-GUI FAQ) I have so far looked into, are all somewhat "officially"
endorsed:

(1) Sciview-R comes from the author/primary-maintainer of the R-GUI FAQ.
(2) RGUI is bundled with R.
(3) RgnomeGUI has been officially bundled with R in the past and only 
(recently?) splitted out as a separate contrib package.

I have started in the order of perceived "authenticity" (which may
obviously be misguided). The others of the dozen don't carry the
same "authenticity". e.g. JGR seems a fine one, and so does some of
the others. At the moment, I don't have a 4th candidate.

We have gone through this point before - it appears that
you don't need a GUI, I don't need it either, but somebody else may
need one, and as such, in a supervisory/teaching role one tries to
find a common denominator e.g. so students can exchange notes and
tips, and so that novices can ask "stupid" questions and expect
statistically significant number of sympathetic ears to offer
helpful advices without the self-confessed experts coming down
hard on them for being stupid.

Hin-Tak Leung

Marc Schwartz (via MN) wrote:
<snipped>
> This brings us full circle to the whole GUI discussion taking place and
> so I'll leave it for that thread.
That's unfortunately correct. The three GUI's (out of the dozen listed 
at R-GUI FAQ) I have so far looked into, are all somewhat "officially"
endorsed:

(1) Sciview-R comes from the author/primary-maintainer of the R-GUI FAQ.
(2) RGUI is bundled with R.
(3) RgnomeGUI has been officially bundled with R in the past and only 
(recently?) splitted out as a separate contrib package.

I have started in the order of perceived "authenticity" (which may
obviously be misguided). The others of the dozen don't carry the
same "authenticity". e.g. JGR seems a fine one, and so does some of
the others. At the moment, I don't have a 4th candidate.

We have gone through this point before - it appears that
you don't need a GUI, I don't need it either, but somebody else may
need one, and as such, in a supervisory/teaching role one tries to
find a common denominator e.g. so students can exchange notes and
tips, and so that novices can ask "stupid" questions and expect
statistically significant number of sympathetic ears to offer
helpful advices without the self-confessed experts coming down
hard on them for being stupid.

Hin-Tak Leung