Pkg xen devel - Oct 2008 - Bug#391935: The answer from Citrix & Xen.org

Hi,

I simply asked to upstream for a clarification on the use of the Xen
trademark, and received two unambiguous answers.

From Citrix:

        Actually, for the community, you can do whatever you like.  The
        FIT test only applies to commercially distributed Xen products -
        and is about ensuring compatibility between vendors.
        
        Do you need more detail than that?
        
        best
        
        Simon
        
        --
        Simon Crosby
        CTO, Virtualization & Management   Division
        Citrix Systems


And from Xen.org:
        
        Thanks for your email and I am glad that Debian is continuing to support
        Xen in your product releases. I see no issue with Debian moving forward
        as you suggest at this time with Xen logo and wording usage. We are
        still working on the FIT test and it is not ready at this time for
        official publication. 
        
        If you are interested, we can include someone from your community on our
        latest FIT test thoughts to get more feedback and ensure that the test
        meets your needs as well as ours. 
        
        Thank you.
        
        
        Stephen Spector
        Community Manager, Xen.org


I think this bug can simply be closed, as there is no issue with the Xen
trademark.

Cheers,
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On 03-Oct-2008, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> I simply asked to upstream for a clarification on the use of the Xen 
> trademark, and received two unambiguous answers.
Thank you for this work.
> From Citrix:
> 
>         Actually, for the community, you can do whatever you like.  
>         The FIT test only applies to commercially distributed Xen 
>         products - and is about ensuring compatibility between 
>         vendors.
>         
>         Do you need more detail than that?
Yes, we do need more detail; we need to know that *any* recipient of 
Debian can redistribute the work to anyone else, modified or 
unmodified, commercially or otherwise. (Or to know that these actions 
are not allowed, so that we can remove the package from Debian.)
> And from Xen.org:
>         
>         Thanks for your email and I am glad that Debian is 
>         continuing to support Xen in your product releases. I see no 
>         issue with Debian moving forward as you suggest at this time 
>         with Xen logo and wording usage. We are still working on the 
>         FIT test and it is not ready at this time for official 
>         publication. 
Any permission we receive for redistribution would need to be 
universal and not specific to Debian. It's not clear that is what is 
being given here.
> I think this bug can simply be closed, as there is no issue with the 
> Xen trademark.
I don't agree, I think the above issues need to be resolved.

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Ben Finney <ben at benfinney.id.au>
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