Roger Price
2020-Aug-11 05:46 UTC
[Nut-upsuser] Synology NAS is shutting down Ubuntu servers after very brief power outage (fwd)
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020, Todd Benivegna wrote:> synoups: https://hastebin.com/xexafofiha.bashWow! What a mess. It looks as if Synology wanted to write their own "NUT", but decided it would be easier to put their ideas in a script when they saw they could use upssched.conf to call it. NUT intends such a script for timer management. Synology use it for general system management. 1. Could you show us the file /usr/syno/bin/synoupscommon ? 2. Could you log into the NAS and execute ls -alF /bin/sh ? Roger
Todd Benivegna
2020-Aug-11 11:24 UTC
[Nut-upsuser] Synology NAS is shutting down Ubuntu servers after very brief power outage (fwd)
Hi Roger, Ok, very interesting…! Here is what you are looking for: 1. https://hastebin.com/evadipomew.bash 2. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 May 27 05:26 /bin/sh -> bash* Hope that helps! Todd -- Todd Benivegna // todd at benivegna.com On Aug 11, 2020, 1:46 AM -0400, Roger Price <roger at rogerprice.org>, wrote:> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020, Todd Benivegna wrote: > > > synoups: https://hastebin.com/xexafofiha.bash > > Wow! What a mess. It looks as if Synology wanted to write their own "NUT", but > decided it would be easier to put their ideas in a script when they saw they > could use upssched.conf to call it. NUT intends such a script for timer > management. Synology use it for general system management. > > 1. Could you show us the file /usr/syno/bin/synoupscommon ? > > 2. Could you log into the NAS and execute ls -alF /bin/sh ? > > Roger > > _______________________________________________ > Nut-upsuser mailing list > Nut-upsuser at alioth-lists.debian.net > https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nut-upsuser-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/nut-upsuser/attachments/20200811/301106eb/attachment.html>
Larry Fahnoe
2020-Aug-11 11:31 UTC
[Nut-upsuser] Synology NAS is shutting down Ubuntu servers after very brief power outage (fwd)
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 12:46 AM Roger Price <roger at rogerprice.org> wrote:> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020, Todd Benivegna wrote: > > > synoups: https://hastebin.com/xexafofiha.bash > > Wow! What a mess. It looks as if Synology wanted to write their own > "NUT", but > decided it would be easier to put their ideas in a script when they saw > they > could use upssched.conf to call it. NUT intends such a script for timer > management. Synology use it for general system management. >Roger's comment confirms my suspicion of NUT as provided by Synology. They make a great NAS product, but then they bolt on all manner of other things. In my opinion, best to leave the NAS as an appliance configured and managed by their GUI tools, and let it just be a NUT client rather than trying to configure it to be the NUT server. I use and find the RaspberryPi's to be very capable NUT servers with the rest of my systems (including my Synology NAS) as NUT clients. Much simpler to manage that way as you have complete control over a fairly current NUT as provided by Raspbian (a Debian derivative). The only kink I've run into is that the Synology NAS as a NUT client provides no means of changing the NUT credentials, so you have to use default credentials for NUT (another reason to make sure NUT is on a protected network). --Larry -- Larry Fahnoe, Fahnoe Technology Consulting, fahnoe at FahnoeTech.com Minneapolis, Minnesota www.FahnoeTech.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/nut-upsuser/attachments/20200811/f8bec641/attachment.html>
Todd Benivegna
2020-Aug-12 00:20 UTC
[Nut-upsuser] Synology NAS is shutting down Ubuntu servers after very brief power outage (fwd)
Hi everyone, Well, we lost power here again. I was not at home, but I guess a dump truck smashed into some power poles and took out half the city; actually tripped most of the breakers in the panel. Anyways, the power was out for just a few seconds and of course my servers shutdown on me after power being out for just a second or two. Here is my syslog from two different machines. I included everything just in case. “Proton": https://hastebin.com/uluqaqetuc.bash "Plex”: https://hastebin.com/apudatonun.sql Let me know what you think. I just tested everything over the weekend and it all worked perfectly; cut power and machines stayed up until it was time to shut them down (I temporarily configured them to shut down after 5 minutes so I didn’t have to wait for the entire battery to drain). I seriously at am a total loss. I guess HDD Hibernation was not the culprit either since I’m still getting the same results. Ugh. Thanks everyone for all your help so far!!!!! Regards, Todd -- Todd Benivegna // todd at benivegna.com On Aug 11, 2020, 7:32 AM -0400, Larry Fahnoe <fahnoe at fahnoetech.com>, wrote:> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 12:46 AM Roger Price <roger at rogerprice.org> wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Aug 2020, Todd Benivegna wrote: > > > > > > > synoups: https://hastebin.com/xexafofiha.bash > > > > > > Wow! What a mess. It looks as if Synology wanted to write their own "NUT", but > > > decided it would be easier to put their ideas in a script when they saw they > > > could use upssched.conf to call it. NUT intends such a script for timer > > > management. Synology use it for general system management. > > Roger's comment confirms my suspicion of NUT as provided by Synology. They make a great NAS product, but then they bolt on all manner of other things. In my opinion, best to leave the NAS as an appliance configured and managed by their GUI tools, and let it just be a NUT client rather than trying to configure it to be the NUT server. I use and find the RaspberryPi's to be very capable NUT servers with the rest of my systems (including my Synology NAS) as NUT clients. Much simpler to manage that way as you have complete control over a fairly current NUT as provided by Raspbian (a Debian derivative). The only kink I've run into is that the Synology NAS as a NUT client provides no means of changing the NUT credentials, so you have to use default credentials for NUT (another reason to make sure NUT is on a protected network). > > --Larry > > -- > Larry Fahnoe, Fahnoe Technology Consulting, fahnoe at FahnoeTech.com > Minneapolis, Minnesota www.FahnoeTech.com > _______________________________________________ > Nut-upsuser mailing list > Nut-upsuser at alioth-lists.debian.net > https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nut-upsuser-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/nut-upsuser/attachments/20200811/d5728801/attachment.html>
Roger Price
2020-Aug-12 08:51 UTC
[Nut-upsuser] A short review of Synology's Safe Mode for power management
Synology, in their NAS products, include NUT for UPS based power management. But although Synology use upsd to talk to the UPS unit, they have their own power management software called "Safe Mode". This reduces upsmon and upssched to pure passthrough with the status changes handled by Synology scripts synoupscommon + synoups. What NUT does ------------- NUT, in upsmon, provides a basic UPS management which I will call "Emergency Shutdown" based on status [LB], and in upssched NUT provides a more complex time-based UPS management which I call "Managed Shutdown", and which is more suitable for installations with frequent wall power failures. Managed Shutdown becomes Emergency Shutdown when the battery is exhausted. The software design is simple with rapid handling by upsmon of the received status changes following the declarations in the configuration file.. Timers run independently and generate further status changes for upssched, again following the declarations in the configuration file. What Synology does ------------------ Synology do neither of NUT's Emergency or Managed shutdowns. Even the basic Emergency Shutdown mechanism of NUT's upsmon is absent. See SHUTDOWNCMD "" in their upsmon.conf. They have invented their own shutdown plan which they call "Safe Mode". It's an emotive term which is good in sales literature but something of a red flag in a disaster recovery audit. The software design differs from NUT. While handling a status change, Synology will loop waiting for confirmation via upsc of the UPS status. This can lead to complex situations. The following descriptions will refer to Synology's SZF flags. These are files, often in /tmp, which are either defined or not defined. Their contents are comments on what is happening. Synology's function UPSStatusGet returns the upsc report for ups.status. Synology's Safe Mode accepts 5 status changes: online, onbatt, lowbatt, fsd and shutdownups. I summarise each one: Status change: online --------------------- Function UPSRestart loops waiting up to 3 minutes for flag SZF_SAFEMODE_DONE aka /tmp/safeModeDone to be defined before calling telinit 6 for a system re-boot. Note that the timer is in a local loop. If power fails during this time, it looks as if the status change is ignored. Good timer management would requires the timer to be run externally producing a new call of Synology's software. Status change: onbatt --------------------- Sets flag SZF_ONBATT aka /tmp/ups.onbatt Status changes: lowbatt, fsd ---------------------------- Calls function UPSSafeMode which checks the UPS status and exits if [OL]. This code will fail if the UPS status is [OL CHRG], and although the UPS is online, the NAS will shutdown. Here is the relevant snippet: St=`UPSStatusGet` if [ "$St" = "OL" ]; then SYSLOG "WARNING: UPS is On-Line" return fi echo "$1" > $SZF_SAFEMODE /usr/syno/bin/synologset1 sys warn 0x11300011 SYSLOG "[UPS] Server is going to Safe Mode. It will stop all services and umount all volumes." Status change: shutdownups -------------------------- Calls function UPSShutdown. which checks the UPS status and reboots if [OL]. This code will fail if the UPS status is [OL CHRG], and although the UPS is online, the NAS will shutdown. Here is the relevant snippet: OL=0 LB=0 while [ $OL -ne 2 -a $LB -ne 2 ]; do sleep 10 St=`UPSStatusGet` The following test will fail if St="OL CHRG". if [ "$St" = "OL" ]; then OL=`expr $OL + 1` LB=0 else LB=`expr $LB + 1` OL=0 fi echo "OL=$OL LB=$LB" >> $SZF_SAFEMODE done if [ $OL -eq 2 ]; then synologset1 sys warn 0x11300012 echo "UPS back to On-Line and reboot." >> $SZF_SAFEMODE $SYNOBOOTBIN --unset-safe-shutdown telinit 6 If St="OL CHRG", the following code is executed and the NAS shuts down even though the UPS is online. elif [ $LB -eq 2 ]; then touch /var/.NormalShutdown if [ $UPSSafeShutdown -eq 0 ]; then echo "Waiting UPS exhausted." >> $SZF_SAFEMODE SYSLOG "Waiting UPS exhausted." else echo "UPS safe shutdown." >> $SZF_SAFEMODE SYSLOG "UPS safe shutdown." Summary ------- Synology's Safe Mode is a complete replacement for NUT's upsmon and upssched and looks to be buggy with at least some UPS units. The Safe Mode seems to be an attempt to do a Managed Shutdown, but keeps the NAS running which will deplete the UPS. The overall design is weak. The logic is code-based rather than configuration file based, and is unduly complex. If you have problems with having the NAS as master, make it a slave, and run the NUT configuration of your choice in your PC/workstation. Roger
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