Nut upsuser - Feb 2014 - Emne: Eaton Powerware 5110 - some stats not reported

Hi

On
http://nutwiki.kanonbra.com/wiki/Category:Eaton_Powerware_5110

you can see what is reported. The unreleased part refers to v2.7.1, which is now
released.

Alf


Greg Vickers <daehenoc at iinet.net.au>:
>Hi all,
>
>I've hooked up an Eaton Powerware 5110 to Ubuntu 13.10 server, and 
>configured nut appropriately.  The cgi scripts are working fine, but on 
>upsstats.cgi, the Batter, UPS Temp and Battery Runtime fields are all 
>blank - and there are no entries for these values in the 'All data'
tree.
>
>I've checked the man page for bcmxcp_usb 
>(http://www.networkupstools.org/docs/man/bcmxcp_usb.html), there isn't 
>any information there about not reporting these values, have I done 
>something wrong, or is this driver not able to get this information from 
>this UPS?
>
>Thanks,
>Greg
>
>
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2014-02-13 6:55 GMT+01:00 Alf H?gemark <alf at i100.no>:
> Hi
>
Hi Alf,

> On
> http://nutwiki.kanonbra.com/wiki/Category:Eaton_Powerware_5110

cool thing!
But duplicating the NUT Device Dumps Library [1].
The DDL can also serve both users and developers purposes, by providing
these dumps as .dev files (usable with dummy-ups).
I'm looking for someone to help me completing this effort: would you be
interested in?
It would mostly be collecting dumps posted on the lists and the web, and
calling users to massively send theirs...

This however made me realize that it's still not referenced on the web and
in the docs.

Cheers,
Arnaud
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[1] http://www.networkupstools.org/devdumps/
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2014-02-15 18:54 GMT+01:00 Arnaud Quette <aquette.dev at gmail.com>:
> 2014-02-13 6:55 GMT+01:00 Alf H?gemark <alf at i100.no>:
>
>> Hi
>>
>
> Hi Alf,
>
Hi again Alf,

> On
>> http://nutwiki.kanonbra.com/wiki/Category:Eaton_Powerware_5110
>
>
> cool thing!
> But duplicating the NUT Device Dumps Library [1].
>
you've now been assimilated...
I've uploaded your 9 dumps.

> The DDL can also serve both users and developers purposes, by providing
> these dumps as .dev files (usable with dummy-ups).
> I'm looking for someone to help me completing this effort: would you be
> interested in?
>
I've created a github issue to track the other things I had in mind [2]

thanks and cheers,
Arnaud
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[2] https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/issues/93
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On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Arnaud Quette wrote:
> 2014-02-13 6:55 GMT+01:00 Alf H?gemark <alf at i100.no>:
>> Hi
> 
> Hi Alf,
>  
>> On
>> http://nutwiki.kanonbra.com/wiki/Category:Eaton_Powerware_5110
> 
> cool thing!
> But duplicating the NUT Device Dumps Library [1].
> The DDL can also serve both users and developers purposes, by providing
these dumps as .dev files (usable with dummy-ups).
> I'm looking for someone to help me completing this effort: would you be
interested in?
> It would mostly be collecting dumps posted on the lists and the web, and
calling users to massively send theirs...
Arnaud,

here's the discussion that led to Alf's tests with MediaWiki:

http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=51D93E42.60500%40i100.no

(Note "Mike."'s mention of read/write variables, which are not
addressed by upsc output alone.)

The way I see it, there are several use cases that overlap a bit:

* dummy-ups data files for debugging
* Answering the question "what variables do I get from this UPS with NUT
vX.Y.Z?" (or, "what is the benefit of upgrading the driver from the
distribution's old version?")
* Answering the question "what UPS should I buy to be able to monitor these
variables?"

The thought was that tagging pages with something like MediaWiki categories
could build up the cross-references needed to answer the second and third
questions, but that might get unwieldy. With something like the DDL, it should
be possible to programmatically generate those cross-reference lists.

Organizing the information in something like a wiki allows additional comments
from users of the equipment. Of particular note is whether or not a given
variable can be relied upon (which might depend on the NUT driver version, or
even the UPS firmware version).

Unfortunately, it isn't clear what the best way forward would be.
Shoe-horning the second and third use cases into MediaWiki would probably
require a custom plugin.

Another set of useful metadata is the USB VID:PID, plus dumps from
"lsusb". This overlaps nut-scanner a bit, but considering that lsusb
is a much lighter-weight dependency than nut-scanner (and it's even in the
FreeBSD ports tree now), it's a quick lookup for users to determine whether
it is worth their time to try installing NUT.
> This however made me realize that it's still not referenced on the web
and in the docs.
helps if you link it from somewhere :-)

update: I see you're working on that:
https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/issues/93

-- 
Charles Lepple
clepple at gmail