Nouveau - Nov 2018 - 4.20.0-rc3 nouveau/Quadro P2000 Mobile: runpm causing ACPI errors, lockups

So a new thinkpad:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP107GLM [Quadro P2000
Mobile] (rev a1)

Hangs whenever I try to poke at the card. It starts happily enough with

[    3.971515] ACPI Warning: \_SB.PCI0.GFX0._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20181003/nsarguments-66)
[    3.971553] ACPI Warning: \_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
- Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20181003/nsarguments-66)
[    3.971721] pci 0000:01:00.0: optimus capabilities: enabled, status dynamic
power, hda bios codec supported
[    3.971726] VGA switcheroo: detected Optimus DSM method \_SB_.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP
handle
[    3.971727] nouveau: detected PR support, will not use DSM
[    3.971745] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0006 -> 0007)
[    3.971923] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: NVIDIA GP107 (137000a1)
[    4.009875] PM: Image not found (code -22)
[    4.135752] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: VRAM: 4096 MiB
[    4.135753] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: GART: 536870912 MiB
[    4.135754] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: BIT table 'A' not found
[    4.135755] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: BIT table 'L' not found
[    4.135756] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: TMDS table version 2.0
[    4.135756] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB version 4.1
[    4.135757] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 00: 02800f76 04600020
[    4.135758] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 01: 02011f62 00020010
[    4.135759] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 02: 01022f46 04600010
[    4.135760] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 03: 01033f56 04600020
[    4.135761] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 00: 00020047
[    4.135761] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 01: 00010161
[    4.135762] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 02: 00001246
[    4.135763] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 03: 00002346
[    4.508355] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013).
[    4.508355] [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
[    4.509812] [drm] Cannot find any crtc or sizes
[    4.510144] [drm] Initialized nouveau 1.3.1 20120801 for 0000:01:00.0 on
minor 2


Although that type mismatch is a bit worrying. And I'm not sure what
prints PM: Image not found.

But after a short while it gets pretty busy:


[   52.917009] No Local Variables are initialized for Method [NVPO]
[   52.917011] No Arguments are initialized for method [NVPO]
[   52.917012] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP.NVPO, AE_AML_LOOP_TIMEOUT (20181003/psparse-516)
[   52.917063] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed \_SB.PCI0.PGON,
AE_AML_LOOP_TIMEOUT (20181003/psparse-516)
[   52.917084] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PG00._ON, AE_AML_LOOP_TIMEOUT (20181003/psparse-516)
[   52.917108] acpi device:00: Failed to change power state to D0
[   52.969287] video LNXVIDEO:00: Cannot transition to power state D0 for parent
in (unknown)
[   52.969289] pci_raw_set_power_state: 2 callbacks suppressed
[   52.969291] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Refused to change power state, currently in
D3
[   53.029514] video LNXVIDEO:00: Cannot transition to power state D0 for parent
in (unknown)
[   53.041027] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Refused to change power state, currently in
D3
[   53.041035] video LNXVIDEO:00: Cannot transition to power state D0 for parent
in (unknown)
[   53.053008] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Refused to change power state, currently in
D3


And then kernel proceeds to throw up errors at random places, e.g.

[   67.021892] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[   67.021895] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[   67.021897] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[   67.021900] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[   67.021927] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[   67.021928] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[   67.021932] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[   67.021934] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[   67.024463] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[   99.980625] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Error sending STATISTICS_CMD: time out
after 2000ms.

followed by soft lockups and sometimes hard lockups in places
like attempts to walk skb lists.

Adding runpm=0 does away with this issue.

The specific test was with noaccel=1 - it does not seem to change
things for me.

I poked at the ACPI method NVPO and yes it does actually
seem to execute a while loop waiting for some register
to become 0. Which I guess never happens? Because card
is in a low power state and so reads return ffffffff maybe?

X isn't happy even with runpm=0 but that might be a different
issue - I thought runpm=0 might be an easier place to start debugging
things given there are logs of the failure.

Using 4.20.0-rc3 right now.

Userspace bits are from fedora 29:
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-1.0.15-6.fc29.x86_64

firmware is pretty recent:
linux-firmware-20181008-88.gitc6b6265d.fc29.noarch

More hints for debugging would be appreciated.
If anyone wants me to play with a different kernel tree,
let me know.

-- 
MST

+linux-acpi

Hi Michael,

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:53:26PM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin
wrote:
> So a new thinkpad:
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP107GLM [Quadro
P2000 Mobile] (rev a1)
> 
> Hangs whenever I try to poke at the card. It starts happily enough with
> 
> [    3.971515] ACPI Warning: \_SB.PCI0.GFX0._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
- Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20181003/nsarguments-66)
> [    3.971553] ACPI Warning: \_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._DSM: Argument #4 type
mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20181003/nsarguments-66)
> [    3.971721] pci 0000:01:00.0: optimus capabilities: enabled, status
dynamic power, hda bios codec supported
> [    3.971726] VGA switcheroo: detected Optimus DSM method
\_SB_.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP handle
> [    3.971727] nouveau: detected PR support, will not use DSM
> [    3.971745] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0006 -> 0007)
> [    3.971923] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: NVIDIA GP107 (137000a1)
> [    4.009875] PM: Image not found (code -22)
> [    4.135752] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: VRAM: 4096 MiB
> [    4.135753] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: GART: 536870912 MiB
> [    4.135754] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: BIT table 'A' not found
> [    4.135755] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: BIT table 'L' not found
> [    4.135756] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: TMDS table version 2.0
> [    4.135756] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB version 4.1
> [    4.135757] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 00: 02800f76 04600020
> [    4.135758] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 01: 02011f62 00020010
> [    4.135759] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 02: 01022f46 04600010
> [    4.135760] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 03: 01033f56 04600020
> [    4.135761] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 00: 00020047
> [    4.135761] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 01: 00010161
> [    4.135762] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 02: 00001246
> [    4.135763] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 03: 00002346
> [    4.508355] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013).
> [    4.508355] [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
> [    4.509812] [drm] Cannot find any crtc or sizes
> [    4.510144] [drm] Initialized nouveau 1.3.1 20120801 for 0000:01:00.0 on
minor 2
> 
> 
> Although that type mismatch is a bit worrying. And I'm not sure what
> prints PM: Image not found.
That is fine, it just says it cannot find a hibernation image from swap
device. I guess you have resume=... in the kernel command line.
> But after a short while it gets pretty busy:
> 
> 
> [   52.917009] No Local Variables are initialized for Method [NVPO]
> [   52.917011] No Arguments are initialized for method [NVPO]
> [   52.917012] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP.NVPO, AE_AML_LOOP_TIMEOUT (20181003/psparse-516)
> [   52.917063] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed \_SB.PCI0.PGON,
AE_AML_LOOP_TIMEOUT (20181003/psparse-516)
> [   52.917084] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PG00._ON, AE_AML_LOOP_TIMEOUT (20181003/psparse-516)
> [   52.917108] acpi device:00: Failed to change power state to D0
Here it seems to fail to turn on the power resource for the device.
> [   52.969287] video LNXVIDEO:00: Cannot transition to power state D0 for
parent in (unknown)
> [   52.969289] pci_raw_set_power_state: 2 callbacks suppressed
> [   52.969291] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Refused to change power state,
currently in D3
> [   53.029514] video LNXVIDEO:00: Cannot transition to power state D0 for
parent in (unknown)
> [   53.041027] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Refused to change power state,
currently in D3
> [   53.041035] video LNXVIDEO:00: Cannot transition to power state D0 for
parent in (unknown)
> [   53.053008] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Refused to change power state,
currently in D3
> 
> 
> And then kernel proceeds to throw up errors at random places, e.g.
> 
> [   67.021892] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> [   67.021895] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> [   67.021897] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> [   67.021900] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> [   67.021927] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> [   67.021928] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> [   67.021932] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> [   67.021934] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> [   67.024463] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> [   99.980625] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Error sending STATISTICS_CMD: time out
after 2000ms.
> 
> followed by soft lockups and sometimes hard lockups in places
> like attempts to walk skb lists.
> 
> Adding runpm=0 does away with this issue.
> 
> The specific test was with noaccel=1 - it does not seem to change
> things for me.
> 
> I poked at the ACPI method NVPO and yes it does actually
> seem to execute a while loop waiting for some register
> to become 0. Which I guess never happens? Because card
> is in a low power state and so reads return ffffffff maybe?
Yes, it could be the case.
> X isn't happy even with runpm=0 but that might be a different
> issue - I thought runpm=0 might be an easier place to start debugging
> things given there are logs of the failure.
> 
> Using 4.20.0-rc3 right now.
> 
> Userspace bits are from fedora 29:
> xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-1.0.15-6.fc29.x86_64
> 
> firmware is pretty recent:
> linux-firmware-20181008-88.gitc6b6265d.fc29.noarch
> 
> More hints for debugging would be appreciated.
> If anyone wants me to play with a different kernel tree,
> let me know.
Can you share full dmesg and acpidump of the system? I would like to
check the power resource methods.

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 11:36:50AM +0200, Mika Westerberg
wrote:
> +linux-acpi
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:53:26PM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > So a new thinkpad:
> > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP107GLM [Quadro
P2000 Mobile] (rev a1)
> > 
> > Hangs whenever I try to poke at the card. It starts happily enough
with
> > 
> > [    3.971515] ACPI Warning: \_SB.PCI0.GFX0._DSM: Argument #4 type
mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20181003/nsarguments-66)
> > [    3.971553] ACPI Warning: \_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._DSM: Argument #4
type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20181003/nsarguments-66)
> > [    3.971721] pci 0000:01:00.0: optimus capabilities: enabled, status
dynamic power, hda bios codec supported
> > [    3.971726] VGA switcheroo: detected Optimus DSM method
\_SB_.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP handle
> > [    3.971727] nouveau: detected PR support, will not use DSM
BTW this is also a bit strange. It says it will not use DSM - but did
it maybe use DSM previously? The ACPI Warning seems to indicate that
it did ...

And just to complete the picture here's the _DSM from ACPI:

        Method (_DSM, 4, Serialized)  // _DSM: Device-Specific Method
        {
            If ((Arg0 == ToUUID
("3e5b41c6-eb1d-4260-9d15-c71fbadae414")))
            {
                Switch (ToInteger (Arg2))
                {
                    Case (Zero)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Return (0x0001E7FF)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (One)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            If (((S0ID == One) && (OSYS < 0x07DF)))
                            {
                                If (((DerefOf (Arg3 [Zero]) & 0xFF) == One))
                                {
                                    \GUAM (One)
                                }

                                Local0 = (DerefOf (Arg3 [One]) & 0xFF)
                                If ((Local0 == Zero))
                                {
                                    \GUAM (Zero)
                                }
                            }

                            If ((DerefOf (Arg3 [Zero]) == Zero))
                            {
                                Local0 = CLID /* \_SB_.PCI0.GFX0.CLID */
                                If ((0x80000000 & Local0))
                                {
                                    CLID &= 0x0F
                                    GLID (CLID)
                                }
                            }

                            Return (One)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x02)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Return (One)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x03)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Return (One)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x04)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Return (One)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x05)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Return (One)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x06)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Return (One)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x07)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            IBTT = (DerefOf (Arg3 [Zero]) & 0xFF)
                            Return (One)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x08)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            IPSC = (DerefOf (Arg3 [Zero]) & 0xFF)
                            If ((DerefOf (Arg3 [One]) & 0xFF))
                            {
                                IPAT = (DerefOf (Arg3 [One]) & 0xFF)
                                IPAT--
                            }

                            IBIA = ((DerefOf (Arg3 [0x02]) >> 0x04) &
0x07)
                            Return (One)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x09)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Return (One)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x0A)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Local0 = (LIDS << 0x08)
                            Local0 += 0x0100
                            Return (Local0)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x0D)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Local0 = ((DerefOf (Arg3 [0x03]) << 0x18) |
(DerefOf (
                                Arg3 [0x02]) << 0x10))
                            Local0 &= 0xEFFF0000
                            Local0 &= (DerefOf (DBTB [IBTT]) << 0x10)
                            Local0 |= IBTT
                            Return (Local0)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x0E)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Local0 = IPSC /* \IPSC */
                            Local0 |= (IPAT << 0x08)
                            Local0 += 0x0100
                            Local0 |= (LIDS << 0x10)
                            Local0 += 0x00010000
                            Local0 |= (IBIA << 0x14)
                            Return (Local0)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x0F)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Local0 = GIVD /* \_SB_.PCI0.GFX0.GIVD */
                            Local0 ^= One
                            Local0 |= (GMFN << One)
                            Local0 |= 0x1800
                            Local0 |= (IDMS << 0x11)
                            Local0 |= (DerefOf (DerefOf (CDCT [HVCO]) [CDVL])
<<
                                0x15)
                            Return (Local0)
                        }
                    }
                    Case (0x10)
                    {
                        If ((Arg1 == One))
                        {
                            Name (KSVP, Package (0x02)
                            {
                                0x80000000, 
                                0x8000
                            })
                            KSVP [Zero] = KSV0 /* \KSV0 */
                            KSVP [One] = KSV1 /* \KSV1 */
                            Return (KSVP) /* \_SB_.PCI0.GFX0._DSM.KSVP */
                        }
                    }

                }
            }

            Return (Buffer (One)
            {
                 0x00                                             // .
            })
        }


I am not sure what makes it think that Arg3 is a buffer and
not a package: IIRC Index (decoded C-style here as []) can apply
to either.

Am I maybe misunderstanding the warning?

> > [    3.971745] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0006 -> 0007)
> > [    3.971923] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: NVIDIA GP107 (137000a1)
> > [    4.009875] PM: Image not found (code -22)
> > [    4.135752] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: VRAM: 4096 MiB
> > [    4.135753] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: GART: 536870912 MiB
> > [    4.135754] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: BIT table 'A' not
found
> > [    4.135755] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: BIT table 'L' not
found
> > [    4.135756] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: TMDS table version 2.0
> > [    4.135756] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB version 4.1
> > [    4.135757] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 00: 02800f76
04600020
> > [    4.135758] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 01: 02011f62
00020010
> > [    4.135759] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 02: 01022f46
04600010
> > [    4.135760] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 03: 01033f56
04600020
> > [    4.135761] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 00: 00020047
> > [    4.135761] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 01: 00010161
> > [    4.135762] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 02: 00001246
> > [    4.135763] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 03: 00002346
> > [    4.508355] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2
(21.10.2013).
> > [    4.508355] [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
> > [    4.509812] [drm] Cannot find any crtc or sizes
> > [    4.510144] [drm] Initialized nouveau 1.3.1 20120801 for
0000:01:00.0 on minor 2
> > 
> > 
> > Although that type mismatch is a bit worrying. And I'm not sure
what
> > prints PM: Image not found.
> 
> That is fine, it just says it cannot find a hibernation image from swap
> device. I guess you have resume=... in the kernel command line.
> 
> > But after a short while it gets pretty busy:
> > 
> > 
> > [   52.917009] No Local Variables are initialized for Method [NVPO]
> > [   52.917011] No Arguments are initialized for method [NVPO]
> > [   52.917012] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP.NVPO, AE_AML_LOOP_TIMEOUT (20181003/psparse-516)
> > [   52.917063] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
\_SB.PCI0.PGON, AE_AML_LOOP_TIMEOUT (20181003/psparse-516)
> > [   52.917084] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PG00._ON, AE_AML_LOOP_TIMEOUT (20181003/psparse-516)
> > [   52.917108] acpi device:00: Failed to change power state to D0
> 
> Here it seems to fail to turn on the power resource for the device.
>
> > [   52.969287] video LNXVIDEO:00: Cannot transition to power state D0
for parent in (unknown)
> > [   52.969289] pci_raw_set_power_state: 2 callbacks suppressed
> > [   52.969291] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Refused to change power state,
currently in D3
> > [   53.029514] video LNXVIDEO:00: Cannot transition to power state D0
for parent in (unknown)
> > [   53.041027] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Refused to change power state,
currently in D3
> > [   53.041035] video LNXVIDEO:00: Cannot transition to power state D0
for parent in (unknown)
> > [   53.053008] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Refused to change power state,
currently in D3
> > 
> > 
> > And then kernel proceeds to throw up errors at random places, e.g.
> > 
> > [   67.021892] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> > [   67.021895] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> > [   67.021897] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> > [   67.021900] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> > [   67.021927] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> > [   67.021928] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> > [   67.021932] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> > [   67.021934] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> > [   67.024463] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
> > [   99.980625] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Error sending STATISTICS_CMD:
time out after 2000ms.
BTW this one might indicate that somehow iwlwifi got powered
down too somehow. It's at

00:14.3 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless-AC 9560 [Jefferson Peak]
(rev 10)

so really shouldn't be affected, but go figure. If driver really is getting
all-ones from the device, it just might try to poke at a wrong b:d.f by mistake
maybe ...
> > followed by soft lockups and sometimes hard lockups in places
> > like attempts to walk skb lists.
> > 
> > Adding runpm=0 does away with this issue.
> > 
> > The specific test was with noaccel=1 - it does not seem to change
> > things for me.
> > 
> > I poked at the ACPI method NVPO and yes it does actually
> > seem to execute a while loop waiting for some register
> > to become 0. Which I guess never happens? Because card
> > is in a low power state and so reads return ffffffff maybe?
> 
> Yes, it could be the case.
> 
> > X isn't happy even with runpm=0 but that might be a different
> > issue - I thought runpm=0 might be an easier place to start debugging
> > things given there are logs of the failure.
> > 
> > Using 4.20.0-rc3 right now.
> > 
> > Userspace bits are from fedora 29:
> > xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-1.0.15-6.fc29.x86_64
> > 
> > firmware is pretty recent:
> > linux-firmware-20181008-88.gitc6b6265d.fc29.noarch
> > 
> > More hints for debugging would be appreciated.
> > If anyone wants me to play with a different kernel tree,
> > let me know.
> 
> Can you share full dmesg and acpidump of the system? I would like to
> check the power resource methods.
Pls find it as an attachment here:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108873

If you like I can send it to you directly too -
spamming the list with it isn't helpful I guess?

-- 
MST