Mongrel users - Dec 2007 - No matter what I do, Mongrel will not write pid files

I have been trying to run
mongrel_rails start -e production -p 41740 -P
/home/user/railsftpapp/log/mongrel.41740.pid
And cluster but it wont make a pid file ! It''s driving me crazy....

Cluster verbose
mongrel_rails start -d -e production -S
/home/nhall/railsftpapp/config/mongrel_upload_progress.conf --user
mongrel --group mongrel -p 41740 -P
/home/nhall/railsftpapp/fake/mongrel.41740.pid -l
log/mongrel.41740.log



It''s building the log files just file but no pid files


I put the folder to 755 777 and put absolutes and locals
CentOS 5
Rails 1.2.6
mongrel 1.1.1