Lustre devel - Oct 2006 - Lustre on win32

Hello,

I considering options for building a parallel file system on win32.

If possible I would like to understand a little more about some of the
technical challenges associated with such a port.

Any thoughts, references, directions etc. you might have regarding Lustre on
win32 would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Tim
_____________________
Timothy C. Ayer
Technical Applications - High Intensity Computing
United Technologies - Pratt & Whitney
timothy.ayer@pw.utc.com
(860) 565 - 5268 v
(860) 565 - 2668 f

Hi,

Microsoft is working on one in the dev labs in Perth, I suggest asking 
them if you have the contacts. From what I remember you will not get as 
good performance. However what you could do is make a Linux Lustra FS 
and mount it on windows. I have worked with windows as a development and 
deployment platform for over 10 years, and there are many challenges 
porting linux code over. I think that win32 is the best desktop 
environment however as a server or service orientated environment it 
does not come close to linux. I think that MS needs to really look at 
security, scalability. Linux performs on my AMDs 10 times as fast as ms 
because its better for async operations. If it must be done in win32 
contact the professor in Perth who is working on a parallel FS. PS if 
anyone has already ported Lustra and thinks im wrong let me know too.

Kind regards
Morgan Lean

Ayer, Timothy C. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I considering options for building a parallel file system on win32.
>
> If possible I would like to understand a little more about some of the
> technical challenges associated with such a port.
>
> Any thoughts, references, directions etc. you might have regarding Lustre
on
> win32 would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
> _____________________
> Timothy C. Ayer
> Technical Applications - High Intensity Computing
> United Technologies - Pratt & Whitney
> timothy.ayer@pw.utc.com
> (860) 565 - 5268 v
> (860) 565 - 2668 f
>
>
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> Lustre-devel mailing list
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Hi

CFS has a (proprietary) product in beta called pCIFS which parallelizes IO
to multiple samba servers, accessing the Samba server intelligently, based
on the Lustre file layout.  pCIFS is conceptually similar to pNFS
("files"
protocol).  We believe that this can offer parallel IO while leveraging the
enormous amount of semantic work done by the Samba team to get the
client-server semantics correct.  pCIFS is a filter driver over the CIFS
redirector in the NT client and works with un-modified (recent) Samba
servers.

We have also ported much of the Lustre client to Windows.  At the moment it
seems like pCIFS is the more attractive product in the market, but that
could change, and we would be interested to learn more about this.   There
are "in between" solutions, like extending pCIFS to do IO directly
with the
Lustre OST''s, bypassing Samba while continuing to use Samba for the
metadata
operations (this is like pNFS with the "object" protocol).

- Peter -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lustre-devel-bounces@clusterfs.com 
> [mailto:lustre-devel-bounces@clusterfs.com] On Behalf Of Morgan
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:06 PM
> To: Ayer, Timothy C.
> Cc: lustre-devel@clusterfs.com
> Subject: Re: [Lustre-devel] Lustre on win32
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Microsoft is working on one in the dev labs in Perth, I 
> suggest asking them if you have the contacts. From what I 
> remember you will not get as good performance. However what 
> you could do is make a Linux Lustra FS and mount it on 
> windows. I have worked with windows as a development and 
> deployment platform for over 10 years, and there are many 
> challenges porting linux code over. I think that win32 is the 
> best desktop environment however as a server or service 
> orientated environment it does not come close to linux. I 
> think that MS needs to really look at security, scalability. 
> Linux performs on my AMDs 10 times as fast as ms because its 
> better for async operations. If it must be done in win32 
> contact the professor in Perth who is working on a parallel 
> FS. PS if anyone has already ported Lustra and thinks im 
> wrong let me know too.
> 
> Kind regards
> Morgan Lean
> 
> Ayer, Timothy C. wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I considering options for building a parallel file system on win32.
> >
> > If possible I would like to understand a little more about 
> some of the 
> > technical challenges associated with such a port.
> >
> > Any thoughts, references, directions etc. you might have regarding 
> > Lustre on
> > win32 would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim
> > _____________________
> > Timothy C. Ayer
> > Technical Applications - High Intensity Computing United 
> Technologies 
> > - Pratt & Whitney timothy.ayer@pw.utc.com
> > (860) 565 - 5268 v
> > (860) 565 - 2668 f
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Lustre-devel mailing list
> > Lustre-devel@clusterfs.com
> > https://mail.clusterfs.com/mailman/listinfo/lustre-devel
> >   
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