Easwaran Raman via llvm-dev
2017-Dec-15 18:22 UTC
[llvm-dev] RFC: Synthetic function entry counts
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Sean Silva <chisophugis at gmail.com> wrote:> IIUC, this proposal is just saying that we should infer a static profile > for entry counts just like we do for branch probabilities. In the case of > entry counts, we do not hide that information behind an analysis like BPI, > so currently just annotating synthetic PGO entry counts is a simple > solution that piggybacks on the PGO mechanism and Just Works. > > If that is correct then this makes perfect sense to me. >Yes, that is the proposal.> > It could be argued that we ought to refactor things so that the raw PGO > metadata is only ever accessed via a wrapper CGSCC analysis that falls back > to interprocedural analysis (i.e. static profile heuristics) when the entry > count metadata is missing, just like BPI does with static intraprocedural > analysis and branch weight metadata. However, we probably don't want to do > that while folks are still depending on the old PM in production since > CGSCC analyses don't exist there which would force us to maintain an old > and new way of doing it. > > (Also, it sounds like you want to compute this with a top-down CGSCC > traversal, so it might not actually be computable incrementally as a bottom > up CGSCC analysis which is what CGSCC analyses currently do; an auxiliary > module analysis for the top-down part might work around this though) >>Wrapping function entry counts behind an analysis might be doable but requires more careful thought. Right now getEntryCount is called from various passes: inliner, loop passes (unroll, loop sink), codegenprepare (for function layout), machine block placement, module summary analysis ... This might be worth attempting when we fully migrate to the new pass manager but not now. Also, the need to run this logic (or similar logic) as a "ThinLTO analysis"> suggests not wedding it too much with the intricacies of the IR-level pass > management (although admittedly we already do that with the inliner and > then ThinLTO has to approximate those inlining decisions, so it might not > be the end of the world to have some divergence). > > -- Sean Silva > > On Dec 12, 2017 5:02 PM, "Easwaran Raman via llvm-dev" < > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > >> Functions in LLVM IR have a function_entry_count metadata that is >> attached in PGO compilation. By using the entry count together with the >> block frequency info, the compiler computes the profile count of call >> instructions based on which the hotness/coldness of callsites can be >> determined. Experiments have shown that using a higher threshold for hot >> callsites results in improved runtime performance of the generated code >> without significant code size increases. We propose to generate synthetic >> function counts for non-PGO compilation and use the counts for boosting hot >> callsites during inlining. >> >> Synthetic function entry counts of functions are initialized based on >> properties of the function such as whether it is visible outside the >> module, whether it has an inline keyword and so on. Then, the callgraph SCC >> is traversed in reverse post-order. Counts of callsites are determined >> based on the entry count and the block frequency of the callsite. The >> callsite count gets added to the entry count of the callee. For targets of >> indirect calls, we will use the !callees metadata to find the possible >> targets and distribute the count equally among them. For functions in a >> non-trivial SCC, the algorithm has to ensure that the counts are stable and >> deterministic. >> >> In ThinLTO mode, the function summary contains the list of call edges >> from the function. We propose to add the relative block frequency on these >> edges. During the thinlink phase, we propagate the function counts on the >> entire call graph and update the function summary with the synthetic >> counts. Additionally, we plan to use the computed counts to drive the >> importing decisions. >> >> Alternative approach >> >> ----------------------------- >> >> >> An alternative to generating synthetic counts is to make block frequency >> info an inter-procedural analysis. Such an analysis would allow comparing >> BFI of callsites in two different functions. This has several downsides: >> >> - >> >> The inter-procedural BFI computation is likely to be more expensive >> in terms of compile-time. >> - >> >> Many function passes invalidate the BFI. This will require selective >> invalidation of function BFIs. >> - >> >> Inliner correctly updates function counts of a callee after a >> callsite is inlined. We can piggyback on this mechanism by using synthetic >> counts. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >> http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >> >>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20171215/e8442db5/attachment.html>
Sean Silva via llvm-dev
2017-Dec-15 19:13 UTC
[llvm-dev] RFC: Synthetic function entry counts
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Easwaran Raman <eraman at google.com> wrote:> > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Sean Silva <chisophugis at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> IIUC, this proposal is just saying that we should infer a static profile >> for entry counts just like we do for branch probabilities. In the case of >> entry counts, we do not hide that information behind an analysis like BPI, >> so currently just annotating synthetic PGO entry counts is a simple >> solution that piggybacks on the PGO mechanism and Just Works. >> >> If that is correct then this makes perfect sense to me. >> > Yes, that is the proposal. > >> >> It could be argued that we ought to refactor things so that the raw PGO >> metadata is only ever accessed via a wrapper CGSCC analysis that falls back >> to interprocedural analysis (i.e. static profile heuristics) when the entry >> count metadata is missing, just like BPI does with static intraprocedural >> analysis and branch weight metadata. However, we probably don't want to do >> that while folks are still depending on the old PM in production since >> CGSCC analyses don't exist there which would force us to maintain an old >> and new way of doing it. >> >> (Also, it sounds like you want to compute this with a top-down CGSCC >> traversal, so it might not actually be computable incrementally as a bottom >> up CGSCC analysis which is what CGSCC analyses currently do; an auxiliary >> module analysis for the top-down part might work around this though) >> > >> > Wrapping function entry counts behind an analysis might be doable but > requires more careful thought. >Definitely.> Right now getEntryCount is called from various passes: inliner, loop > passes (unroll, loop sink), codegenprepare (for function layout), machine > block placement, module summary analysis ... This might be worth attempting > when we fully migrate to the new pass manager but not now. >It seems like many of those places that directly reference getEntryCount are using it to check "HasProfileData". So adding synthetic values would cause us to take a lot of code paths in the compiler that were intended to use real profile data. As a simple example, MachineBlockPlacement::collectLoopBlockSet uses MBFI and MBPI guarded by a check of getEntryCount to see if PGO data is present (the comment even says "This needs precise profile data and we only do this when profile data is available."). Do we need to refactor things first to use a more semantically meaningful check, like "hasRealProfileData" so that synthetic counts don't fool this code into thinking it has real profile data? At least, comments like the one I quoted need to be updated to indicate that a static profile is considered precise enough. Also, one other question: in the case of FullLTO, how do we ensure that the synthetic profile data from static heuristics is consistent across TU's? Do we need to recalculate the synthetic profile data? If we need to recalculate it, presumably we need to know which profile data is synthetic or not. E.g. in a scenario where most TU's are compiled with profile data, but some are not (e.g. vendor or runtime lib delivered as bitcode), recalculated synthetic counts at FullLTO time should honor real profile counts but ignore synthetic counts from per-TU compilation. The PGO+FullLTO case with a runtime lib delivered as bitcode is not hypothetical; this was actually a common configuration used in production while I was at PlayStation. CC'ing Davide, River to confirm that they still care about this case. Also, more generally, can you clarify how your static entry count calculation algorithm is expected to work in the presence of partial profile data? -- Sean Silva> > Also, the need to run this logic (or similar logic) as a "ThinLTO >> analysis" suggests not wedding it too much with the intricacies of the >> IR-level pass management (although admittedly we already do that with the >> inliner and then ThinLTO has to approximate those inlining decisions, so it >> might not be the end of the world to have some divergence). >> >> -- Sean Silva >> >> On Dec 12, 2017 5:02 PM, "Easwaran Raman via llvm-dev" < >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >> >>> Functions in LLVM IR have a function_entry_count metadata that is >>> attached in PGO compilation. By using the entry count together with the >>> block frequency info, the compiler computes the profile count of call >>> instructions based on which the hotness/coldness of callsites can be >>> determined. Experiments have shown that using a higher threshold for hot >>> callsites results in improved runtime performance of the generated code >>> without significant code size increases. We propose to generate synthetic >>> function counts for non-PGO compilation and use the counts for boosting hot >>> callsites during inlining. >>> >>> Synthetic function entry counts of functions are initialized based on >>> properties of the function such as whether it is visible outside the >>> module, whether it has an inline keyword and so on. Then, the callgraph SCC >>> is traversed in reverse post-order. Counts of callsites are determined >>> based on the entry count and the block frequency of the callsite. The >>> callsite count gets added to the entry count of the callee. For targets of >>> indirect calls, we will use the !callees metadata to find the possible >>> targets and distribute the count equally among them. For functions in a >>> non-trivial SCC, the algorithm has to ensure that the counts are stable and >>> deterministic. >>> >>> In ThinLTO mode, the function summary contains the list of call edges >>> from the function. We propose to add the relative block frequency on these >>> edges. During the thinlink phase, we propagate the function counts on the >>> entire call graph and update the function summary with the synthetic >>> counts. Additionally, we plan to use the computed counts to drive the >>> importing decisions. >>> >>> Alternative approach >>> >>> ----------------------------- >>> >>> >>> An alternative to generating synthetic counts is to make block frequency >>> info an inter-procedural analysis. Such an analysis would allow comparing >>> BFI of callsites in two different functions. This has several downsides: >>> >>> - >>> >>> The inter-procedural BFI computation is likely to be more expensive >>> in terms of compile-time. >>> - >>> >>> Many function passes invalidate the BFI. This will require selective >>> invalidation of function BFIs. >>> - >>> >>> Inliner correctly updates function counts of a callee after a >>> callsite is inlined. We can piggyback on this mechanism by using synthetic >>> counts. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> LLVM Developers mailing list >>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >>> http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >>> >>> >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20171215/585b685b/attachment.html>
Xinliang David Li via llvm-dev
2017-Dec-15 19:27 UTC
[llvm-dev] RFC: Synthetic function entry counts
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Sean Silva <chisophugis at gmail.com> wrote:> > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Easwaran Raman <eraman at google.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Sean Silva <chisophugis at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> IIUC, this proposal is just saying that we should infer a static profile >>> for entry counts just like we do for branch probabilities. In the case of >>> entry counts, we do not hide that information behind an analysis like BPI, >>> so currently just annotating synthetic PGO entry counts is a simple >>> solution that piggybacks on the PGO mechanism and Just Works. >>> >>> If that is correct then this makes perfect sense to me. >>> >> Yes, that is the proposal. >> >>> >>> It could be argued that we ought to refactor things so that the raw PGO >>> metadata is only ever accessed via a wrapper CGSCC analysis that falls back >>> to interprocedural analysis (i.e. static profile heuristics) when the entry >>> count metadata is missing, just like BPI does with static intraprocedural >>> analysis and branch weight metadata. However, we probably don't want to do >>> that while folks are still depending on the old PM in production since >>> CGSCC analyses don't exist there which would force us to maintain an old >>> and new way of doing it. >>> >>> (Also, it sounds like you want to compute this with a top-down CGSCC >>> traversal, so it might not actually be computable incrementally as a bottom >>> up CGSCC analysis which is what CGSCC analyses currently do; an auxiliary >>> module analysis for the top-down part might work around this though) >>> >> >>> >> Wrapping function entry counts behind an analysis might be doable but >> requires more careful thought. >> > > Definitely. > > >> Right now getEntryCount is called from various passes: inliner, loop >> passes (unroll, loop sink), codegenprepare (for function layout), machine >> block placement, module summary analysis ... This might be worth attempting >> when we fully migrate to the new pass manager but not now. >> > > It seems like many of those places that directly reference getEntryCount > are using it to check "HasProfileData". So adding synthetic values would > cause us to take a lot of code paths in the compiler that were intended to > use real profile data. > > As a simple example, MachineBlockPlacement::collectLoopBlockSet uses MBFI > and MBPI guarded by a check of getEntryCount to see if PGO data is present > (the comment even says "This needs precise profile data and we only do this > when profile data is available."). Do we need to refactor things first to > use a more semantically meaningful check, like "hasRealProfileData" so that > synthetic counts don't fool this code into thinking it has real profile > data? At least, comments like the one I quoted need to be updated to > indicate that a static profile is considered precise enough. > > >I think the existing code that checks 'hasEntryCount()' for 'isProfileAvailable' information will need to be refactored to query 'isRealProfileAvailable'.> > Also, one other question: in the case of FullLTO, how do we ensure that > the synthetic profile data from static heuristics is consistent across > TU's? Do we need to recalculate the synthetic profile data? If we need to > recalculate it, presumably we need to know which profile data is synthetic > or not. E.g. in a scenario where most TU's are compiled with profile data, > but some are not (e.g. vendor or runtime lib delivered as bitcode), > recalculated synthetic counts at FullLTO time should honor real profile > counts but ignore synthetic counts from per-TU compilation. > > The PGO+FullLTO case with a runtime lib delivered as bitcode is not > hypothetical; this was actually a common configuration used in production > while I was at PlayStation. CC'ing Davide, River to confirm that they still > care about this case. > > > Also, more generally, can you clarify how your static entry count > calculation algorithm is expected to work in the presence of partial > profile data? >I think the BFI information from those modules with real profile data can be used for the IPA frequency propagation purpose, but the 'real' entry count information will need to be dropped. The entry counts for those library functions are collected and aggregated from contexts of different hosting binaries and their usefulness is very questionable. They needs to be 'normalized' in the context of the target binary, which is what the synthetic entry count computation is doing. David> > -- Sean Silva > > >> >> Also, the need to run this logic (or similar logic) as a "ThinLTO >>> analysis" suggests not wedding it too much with the intricacies of the >>> IR-level pass management (although admittedly we already do that with the >>> inliner and then ThinLTO has to approximate those inlining decisions, so it >>> might not be the end of the world to have some divergence). >>> >>> -- Sean Silva >>> >>> On Dec 12, 2017 5:02 PM, "Easwaran Raman via llvm-dev" < >>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Functions in LLVM IR have a function_entry_count metadata that is >>>> attached in PGO compilation. By using the entry count together with the >>>> block frequency info, the compiler computes the profile count of call >>>> instructions based on which the hotness/coldness of callsites can be >>>> determined. Experiments have shown that using a higher threshold for hot >>>> callsites results in improved runtime performance of the generated code >>>> without significant code size increases. We propose to generate synthetic >>>> function counts for non-PGO compilation and use the counts for boosting hot >>>> callsites during inlining. >>>> >>>> Synthetic function entry counts of functions are initialized based on >>>> properties of the function such as whether it is visible outside the >>>> module, whether it has an inline keyword and so on. Then, the callgraph SCC >>>> is traversed in reverse post-order. Counts of callsites are determined >>>> based on the entry count and the block frequency of the callsite. The >>>> callsite count gets added to the entry count of the callee. For targets of >>>> indirect calls, we will use the !callees metadata to find the possible >>>> targets and distribute the count equally among them. For functions in a >>>> non-trivial SCC, the algorithm has to ensure that the counts are stable and >>>> deterministic. >>>> >>>> In ThinLTO mode, the function summary contains the list of call edges >>>> from the function. We propose to add the relative block frequency on these >>>> edges. During the thinlink phase, we propagate the function counts on the >>>> entire call graph and update the function summary with the synthetic >>>> counts. Additionally, we plan to use the computed counts to drive the >>>> importing decisions. >>>> >>>> Alternative approach >>>> >>>> ----------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> An alternative to generating synthetic counts is to make block >>>> frequency info an inter-procedural analysis. Such an analysis would allow >>>> comparing BFI of callsites in two different functions. This has several >>>> downsides: >>>> >>>> - >>>> >>>> The inter-procedural BFI computation is likely to be more expensive >>>> in terms of compile-time. >>>> - >>>> >>>> Many function passes invalidate the BFI. This will require >>>> selective invalidation of function BFIs. >>>> - >>>> >>>> Inliner correctly updates function counts of a callee after a >>>> callsite is inlined. We can piggyback on this mechanism by using synthetic >>>> counts. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> LLVM Developers mailing list >>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >>>> http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >>>> >>>> >> >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20171215/a5c8f619/attachment.html>