libvirt users - Dec 2019 - Re: Locking without virtlockd (nor sanlock)?

Hi list,
I would like to ask a clarification about how locking works. My test 
system is CentOS 7.7 with libvirt-4.5.0-23.el7_7.1.x86_64

Is was understanding that, by default, libvirt does not use any locks. 
 From here [1]: "The out of the box configuration, however, currently 
uses the nop lock manager plugin". As "lock_manager" is commented
in my
qemu.conf file, I was expecting that no locks were used to protect my 
virtual disk from guest double-start or misassignement to other vms.

However, "cat /proc/locks" shows the following (17532905 being the
vdisk
inode):
[root@localhost tmp]# cat /proc/locks | grep 17532905
42: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 201 201
43: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 100 101
Indeed, try to associate and booting the disk to another machines give 
me an error (stating that the disk is alredy in use).

Enabling the "lockd" plugin and starting the same machine, "cat 
/proc/locks" looks different:
[root@localhost tmp]# cat /proc/locks | grep 17532905
31: POSIX  ADVISORY  WRITE 19266 fd:00:17532905 0 0
32: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 201 201
33: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 100 101
As you can see, an *additional* write lock was granted. Again, assigning 
the disk to another vms and booting it up ends with the same error.

So, may I ask:
- why does libvirtd requests READ locks even commenting the 
"lock_manager" option?
- does it means that I can avoid modifying anything, relying on libvirtd 
to correctly locks image files?
- if so, I should use virtlockd for what use cases?

Thanks.

[1] https://libvirt.org/locking-lockd.html

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Il 28-12-2019 01:39 Gionatan Danti ha scritto:
> Hi list,
> I would like to ask a clarification about how locking works. My test
> system is CentOS 7.7 with libvirt-4.5.0-23.el7_7.1.x86_64
> 
> Is was understanding that, by default, libvirt does not use any locks.
> From here [1]: "The out of the box configuration, however, currently
> uses the nop lock manager plugin". As "lock_manager" is
commented in
> my qemu.conf file, I was expecting that no locks were used to protect
> my virtual disk from guest double-start or misassignement to other
> vms.
> 
> However, "cat /proc/locks" shows the following (17532905 being
the
> vdisk inode):
> [root@localhost tmp]# cat /proc/locks | grep 17532905
> 42: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 201 201
> 43: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 100 101
> Indeed, try to associate and booting the disk to another machines give
> me an error (stating that the disk is alredy in use).
> 
> Enabling the "lockd" plugin and starting the same machine,
"cat
> /proc/locks" looks different:
> [root@localhost tmp]# cat /proc/locks | grep 17532905
> 31: POSIX  ADVISORY  WRITE 19266 fd:00:17532905 0 0
> 32: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 201 201
> 33: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 100 101
> As you can see, an *additional* write lock was granted. Again,
> assigning the disk to another vms and booting it up ends with the same
> error.
> 
> So, may I ask:
> - why does libvirtd requests READ locks even commenting the
> "lock_manager" option?
> - does it means that I can avoid modifying anything, relying on
> libvirtd to correctly locks image files?
> - if so, I should use virtlockd for what use cases?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> [1] https://libvirt.org/locking-lockd.html
Ok, maybe I found some answers: from what I read here [1] and here [2], 
Qemu started to automatically lock disk image files to prevent 
corruption from processes outside libvirt scope (ie: manually issues 
"qemu-img" commands).

Do you suggest relying on Qemu own locks or using virtlockd (in addition 
to Qemu locks)? Whatever the answer is, can you explain why?

Thanks.

[1] 
https://qemu.weilnetz.de/doc/2.12/qemu-doc.html#disk_005fimage_005flocking

[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1378241

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Il 28-12-2019 14:36 Gionatan Danti ha scritto:
> Il 28-12-2019 01:39 Gionatan Danti ha scritto:
>> Hi list,
>> I would like to ask a clarification about how locking works. My test
>> system is CentOS 7.7 with libvirt-4.5.0-23.el7_7.1.x86_64
>> 
>> Is was understanding that, by default, libvirt does not use any locks.
>> From here [1]: "The out of the box configuration, however,
currently
>> uses the nop lock manager plugin". As "lock_manager" is
commented in
>> my qemu.conf file, I was expecting that no locks were used to protect
>> my virtual disk from guest double-start or misassignement to other
>> vms.
>> 
>> However, "cat /proc/locks" shows the following (17532905
being the
>> vdisk inode):
>> [root@localhost tmp]# cat /proc/locks | grep 17532905
>> 42: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 201 201
>> 43: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 100 101
>> Indeed, try to associate and booting the disk to another machines give
>> me an error (stating that the disk is alredy in use).
>> 
>> Enabling the "lockd" plugin and starting the same machine,
"cat
>> /proc/locks" looks different:
>> [root@localhost tmp]# cat /proc/locks | grep 17532905
>> 31: POSIX  ADVISORY  WRITE 19266 fd:00:17532905 0 0
>> 32: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 201 201
>> 33: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 100 101
>> As you can see, an *additional* write lock was granted. Again,
>> assigning the disk to another vms and booting it up ends with the same
>> error.
>> 
>> So, may I ask:
>> - why does libvirtd requests READ locks even commenting the
>> "lock_manager" option?
>> - does it means that I can avoid modifying anything, relying on
>> libvirtd to correctly locks image files?
>> - if so, I should use virtlockd for what use cases?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> [1] https://libvirt.org/locking-lockd.html
> 
> Ok, maybe I found some answers: from what I read here [1] and here
> [2], Qemu started to automatically lock disk image files to prevent
> corruption from processes outside libvirt scope (ie: manually issues
> "qemu-img" commands).
> 
> Do you suggest relying on Qemu own locks or using virtlockd (in
> addition to Qemu locks)? Whatever the answer is, can you explain why?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> [1] 
> https://qemu.weilnetz.de/doc/2.12/qemu-doc.html#disk_005fimage_005flocking
> 
> [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1378241
Hi all,
any suggestion on the matter?

Thanks.

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On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 02:36:27PM +0100, Gionatan Danti
wrote:
> Il 28-12-2019 01:39 Gionatan Danti ha scritto:
> > Hi list,
> > I would like to ask a clarification about how locking works. My test
> > system is CentOS 7.7 with libvirt-4.5.0-23.el7_7.1.x86_64
> > 
> > Is was understanding that, by default, libvirt does not use any locks.
> > From here [1]: "The out of the box configuration, however,
currently
> > uses the nop lock manager plugin". As "lock_manager" is
commented in
> > my qemu.conf file, I was expecting that no locks were used to protect
> > my virtual disk from guest double-start or misassignement to other
> > vms.
> > 
> > However, "cat /proc/locks" shows the following (17532905
being the vdisk
> > inode):
> > [root@localhost tmp]# cat /proc/locks | grep 17532905
> > 42: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 201 201
> > 43: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 100 101
> > Indeed, try to associate and booting the disk to another machines give
> > me an error (stating that the disk is alredy in use).
> > 
> > Enabling the "lockd" plugin and starting the same machine,
"cat
> > /proc/locks" looks different:
> > [root@localhost tmp]# cat /proc/locks | grep 17532905
> > 31: POSIX  ADVISORY  WRITE 19266 fd:00:17532905 0 0
> > 32: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 201 201
> > 33: OFDLCK ADVISORY  READ  -1 fd:00:17532905 100 101
> > As you can see, an *additional* write lock was granted. Again,
> > assigning the disk to another vms and booting it up ends with the same
> > error.
> > 
> > So, may I ask:
> > - why does libvirtd requests READ locks even commenting the
> > "lock_manager" option?
> > - does it means that I can avoid modifying anything, relying on
> > libvirtd to correctly locks image files?
> > - if so, I should use virtlockd for what use cases?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > [1] https://libvirt.org/locking-lockd.html
> 
> Ok, maybe I found some answers: from what I read here [1] and here [2],
Qemu
> started to automatically lock disk image files to prevent corruption from
> processes outside libvirt scope (ie: manually issues "qemu-img"
commands).
Yes, this is correct, the OFDLCK you are seeing are held by QEMU itself
and can't be turned off.
> Do you suggest relying on Qemu own locks or using virtlockd (in addition to
> Qemu locks)? Whatever the answer is, can you explain why?
The QEMU locks use fcntl() as their impl and as such they only apply to the
local machine filesystem, except when using NFS which is cross node.

virtlockd also uses fcntl(), however, it doesn't have to acquire locks on
the file/block device directly. It can use a look-aside file for locking.
For example a path under /var/lib/libvirt/lock. This means that locks on
block devices for /dev/sda1 would be held as
/var/lib/libvirt/lock/$HASH(/dev/sda1)

If you mount /var/lib/libvirt/lock on NFS, these locks now apply across
all machines which use the same block devices. This is useful when your
block device storage is network based (iSCSI, RBD, etc).


There are some issues with libvirt's locking though where we haven't
always released/re-acquired locks at the correct time when dealing
with block jobs. As long as your not using snapshots, block rebase,
block mirror APIs, it'll be ok though.

Regards,
Daniel
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