On Saturday, 23 July 2016 23:27:30 CEST Richard W.M. Jones wrote:> Another related point about this release. I think we should switch > back to Transifex (from Zanata currently). > > The obvious reason is that Transifex has a good community who actually > provided plentiful translations, at least for the simple strings (no > one translates the long manual page paragraphs, but I wasn't expecting > that). Zanata, well, nothing much really.Note that Transifex is only a single instance, while Zanata has different installations; we are using the Fedora instance, so we get mostly Fedora translators. An idea could be move to the generic Zanata instance on zanata.org, i.e. https://translate.zanata.org/ (which allows login using a Fedora FAS, so the current translators could keep contributing without extra burden). Also, what about trying to advertize it more (e.g. blog entry, post on devel@fedora, etc)?> Also the Zanata client tools suck.What's the problem with it? I didn't use it much, but I don't recall particular issues. Also, Transifex is proprietary software (closed since 2013), which IMHO is a minus point for it. -- Pino Toscano
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:02:40AM +0200, Pino Toscano wrote:> On Saturday, 23 July 2016 23:27:30 CEST Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > Another related point about this release. I think we should switch > > back to Transifex (from Zanata currently). > > > > The obvious reason is that Transifex has a good community who actually > > provided plentiful translations, at least for the simple strings (no > > one translates the long manual page paragraphs, but I wasn't expecting > > that). Zanata, well, nothing much really. > > Note that Transifex is only a single instance, while Zanata has > different installations; we are using the Fedora instance, so we get > mostly Fedora translators. An idea could be move to the generic > Zanata instance on zanata.org, i.e. https://translate.zanata.org/ > (which allows login using a Fedora FAS, so the current translators > could keep contributing without extra burden).OK I will try this one. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into KVM guests. http://libguestfs.org/virt-v2v
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:19:38AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:02:40AM +0200, Pino Toscano wrote: > > On Saturday, 23 July 2016 23:27:30 CEST Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > Another related point about this release. I think we should switch > > > back to Transifex (from Zanata currently). > > > > > > The obvious reason is that Transifex has a good community who actually > > > provided plentiful translations, at least for the simple strings (no > > > one translates the long manual page paragraphs, but I wasn't expecting > > > that). Zanata, well, nothing much really. > > > > Note that Transifex is only a single instance, while Zanata has > > different installations; we are using the Fedora instance, so we get > > mostly Fedora translators. An idea could be move to the generic > > Zanata instance on zanata.org, i.e. https://translate.zanata.org/ > > (which allows login using a Fedora FAS, so the current translators > > could keep contributing without extra burden). > > OK I will try this one.The problem is that the translation memory isn't shared between Zanata instances (unbelievably, but that appears to be the case). So all this achieves is to split the effort. Unless there is some way to combine translations, resolve conflicts and so on, which there doesn't seem to be. I'm going to have another look at Transifex. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into KVM guests. http://libguestfs.org/virt-v2v