Dave, In a post to LARTC on 18 Sep 06 you said "I run MRTG on all outbound traffic". I''m a newbie with respect to mrtg. I have rrdtool and mrtg built on my Linux box but I have no SNMP so "nothing works". Could you please provide basic instructions for implementing mrtg with respect to traffic shaping? What is needed? Net-SNMP? OpenSNMP? If yes, what is SNMP used for and how is it configured to provide information for traffic shaping? Please also provide whatever configuration is appropriate for mrtg. How does one "make the resulting graphs fairly public"? Abuse is not an issue but seeing how much traffic is in which queue is vital. Thanks for any help. -- gypsy