Icecast - Jun 2023 - Auto rotation on day/hour or dump possible?

Hi Philipp,

Thank you, thats good news that the log on date rotation is in the new version
2.5.

And can you indicate what you are waiting for before making it the stable 2.5
release?

And in which version of openssl does this problem no longer occur?

Sorry for straying from the original question :-)

Best regards,
Michel

> Op 26-06-2023 17:11 CEST schreef Philipp Schafft <phschafft at
de.loewenfelsen.net>:
> 
>  
> Good morning,
> 
> On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 16:29 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I use/test now a log wrapper. 
> > He checks which log has already been sent. In this way it only sends
> > the new data it is fast and almost realtime.
> > 
> > This was the link that not work about log rotation in old mailing i
> > found:
> > https://trac.xiph.org/ticket/2173
> 
> This is most likely: 
> https://gitlab.xiph.org/xiph/icecast-server/-/issues/2173
> 
> (It has been implemented and is part of the next release.)
> 
> 
> > Thanks for the infomration about the KH version. I use it in the past
> > for flash/aac.
> > 
> > I test 2.5 version and have a very nice interface. 
> > It did crash once and also had some problems with https (stop after 3
> > seconds after some weeks running fine) 
> > using fallover mountpoints) Same as 2.4.4. 
> > Caused a lot by using fallover mountpoints. Without fallover, the
> > https stuttering problem does not arise.
> 
> I think those are not really related to this thread. Please feel free
> to to open tickets for them.
> 
> Also the 3 seconds with TLS sound very much like the one bug that was
> in OpenSSL at some point. Newer versions of OpenSSL have that fixed, so
> please check if it's still happening before filing a report. :)
> 
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> -- 
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Good morning,

On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 09:34 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote:
> Hi Philipp,
> 
> Thank you, thats good news that the log on date rotation is in the
> new version 2.5.
keep in mind that the ticket you linked is about dumpfile rotation. log
file rotation is the same as it always has been.

As this is a very common thing being asked if I may just include:
   When you want to rotate Icecast's logs for any reason at any time
   you can just move rename them (also moving to a different same-
   volume directory). After that you need to send SIGHUP to Icecast.
   This will ask Icecast to reload the config which also includes
   releasing the logfiles. When you do that, the logfile is closed and
   reopened. Once Icecast has started the new file the old is all yours
   and you can do with it what you want.

   Two notes here: a) this follows the standard way of UNIX daemons, b)
   reloading might take a tiny bit of time as it happens async within
   the server (which also fallows a). This doesn't matter for most
   applications. However if you need to do operations that are only
   valid once Icecast has completely released you should wait for the
   new file to appear (normally within 3 seconds).

> And can you indicate what you are waiting for before making it the
> stable 2.5 release?
Currently the main items are optimisation in the build system for the
official binaries as well as some politics (as you always have with
bigger projects).

(Actually those build system sharp corners we work on are what also
delays the next release we hoped to do this month.)


Generally I would suggest that nobody starts building something new on
2.4.x. However if you're still on 2.4.x it's fine to not yet upgrade.

> And in which version of openssl does this problem no longer occur?
I'm not fully sure. We never found out. As TLS related software needs
to be up to date anyway I would guess that any version that is still
considered safe is also working.

> Sorry for straying from the original question :-)
Then go ahead and open another thread and everyone is fine with it. ;)


With best regards,

> > Op 26-06-2023 17:11 CEST schreef Philipp Schafft <
> > phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net>:
> > 
> >  
> > Good morning,
> > 
> > On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 16:29 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I use/test now a log wrapper. 
> > > He checks which log has already been sent. In this way it only
> > > sends
> > > the new data it is fast and almost realtime.
> > > 
> > > This was the link that not work about log rotation in old mailing
> > > i
> > > found:
> > > https://trac.xiph.org/ticket/2173
> > 
> > This is most likely: 
> > https://gitlab.xiph.org/xiph/icecast-server/-/issues/2173
> > 
> > (It has been implemented and is part of the next release.)
> > 
> > 
> > > Thanks for the infomration about the KH version. I use it in the
> > > past
> > > for flash/aac.
> > > 
> > > I test 2.5 version and have a very nice interface. 
> > > It did crash once and also had some problems with https (stop
> > > after 3
> > > seconds after some weeks running fine) 
> > > using fallover mountpoints) Same as 2.4.4. 
> > > Caused a lot by using fallover mountpoints. Without fallover, the
> > > https stuttering problem does not arise.
> > 
> > I think those are not really related to this thread. Please feel
> > free
> > to to open tickets for them.
> > 
> > Also the 3 seconds with TLS sound very much like the one bug that
> > was
> > in OpenSSL at some point. Newer versions of OpenSSL have that
> > fixed, so
> > please check if it's still happening before filing a report. :)
-- 
Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer)
Telephone:           +49.3535 490 17 92
Website:             https://www.loewenfelsen.net/
Follow us:           https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/
Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft

L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt)     Registration number:
Bickinger Stra?e 21                     HRB 12308 CB
04916 Herzberg (Elster)                 VATIN/USt-ID:
Germany                                 DE305133015