I was already aware if this in the first place :-) On 04.05.2016 18:04, Jordan Erickson wrote:> Hi buddylove, > > In addition to the links Philipp provided you, here is some more reading > which will hopefully help you better understand the difference between > multicast and unicast communications: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicast > > > Cheers, > Jordan > > > On 05/04/2016 06:39 AM, buddylove wrote: >> @Phil >> nice text... >> just want to mention (or better ask...) >> what the difference between a protocol which implements multiple >> connections simultaneously and a protocol implementing multiple >> connections by connection tracking? >> >> In the end... its the same... >> >> On 04.05.2016 10:25, Philipp Schafft wrote: >>> Good morning, >>> >>> On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: >>>> Hi, there! >>>> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or >>>> both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found >>>> anything. Anyone can help me? >>> >>> Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is >>> also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. >>> As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented >>> using unicast. >>> Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested >>> in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. >>> However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It >>> imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic >>> according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on >>> 'common ground' (such as the internet). >>> >>> Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. 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Oh, well by your "In the end... its the same..." statement and your question of what the difference is (and mentioning connection tracking which is a completely different subject), I was a bit confused as to your query. Cheers, Jordan On 05/04/2016 09:55 AM, buddylove wrote:> I was already aware if this in the first place :-) > > On 04.05.2016 18:04, Jordan Erickson wrote: >> Hi buddylove, >> >> In addition to the links Philipp provided you, here is some more reading >> which will hopefully help you better understand the difference between >> multicast and unicast communications: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicast >> >> >> Cheers, >> Jordan >> >> >> On 05/04/2016 06:39 AM, buddylove wrote: >>> @Phil >>> nice text... >>> just want to mention (or better ask...) >>> what the difference between a protocol which implements multiple >>> connections simultaneously and a protocol implementing multiple >>> connections by connection tracking? >>> >>> In the end... its the same... >>> >>> On 04.05.2016 10:25, Philipp Schafft wrote: >>>> Good morning, >>>> >>>> On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: >>>>> Hi, there! >>>>> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or >>>>> both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found >>>>> anything. Anyone can help me? >>>> >>>> Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is >>>> also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. >>>> As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented >>>> using unicast. >>>> Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested >>>> in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. >>>> However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It >>>> imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic >>>> according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on >>>> 'common ground' (such as the internet). >>>> >>>> Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. And have a nice semester! >>>> >>>> >>>> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP >>>> [1] RFC2817, RFC2818 >>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol >>>> [3] RFC 793 >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> >-- Jordan Erickson (PGP: 0x78DD41CB) Logical Networking Solutions, 707-636-5678
well.... once again the hammer man... answering in between reading 8 books, cooking, chatting with 2 gals and things like that can be confusing too. like my pal likes to say '... cryptographic advise is 120/h...'... No, I think you know what I mean I don't and didn't need to dig deeper into it. name is program here.. even On 04.05.2016 18:59, Jordan Erickson wrote:> Oh, well by your "In the end... its the same..." statement and your > question of what the difference is (and mentioning connection tracking > which is a completely different subject), I was a bit confused as to > your query. > > > Cheers, > Jordan > > On 05/04/2016 09:55 AM, buddylove wrote: >> I was already aware if this in the first place :-) >> >> On 04.05.2016 18:04, Jordan Erickson wrote: >>> Hi buddylove, >>> >>> In addition to the links Philipp provided you, here is some more reading >>> which will hopefully help you better understand the difference between >>> multicast and unicast communications: >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicast >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jordan >>> >>> >>> On 05/04/2016 06:39 AM, buddylove wrote: >>>> @Phil >>>> nice text... >>>> just want to mention (or better ask...) >>>> what the difference between a protocol which implements multiple >>>> connections simultaneously and a protocol implementing multiple >>>> connections by connection tracking? >>>> >>>> In the end... its the same... >>>> >>>> On 04.05.2016 10:25, Philipp Schafft wrote: >>>>> Good morning, >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: >>>>>> Hi, there! >>>>>> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or >>>>>> both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found >>>>>> anything. Anyone can help me? >>>>> >>>>> Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is >>>>> also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. >>>>> As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented >>>>> using unicast. >>>>> Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested >>>>> in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. >>>>> However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It >>>>> imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic >>>>> according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on >>>>> 'common ground' (such as the internet). >>>>> >>>>> Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. 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