that Jack Elliott
2015-Jun-24 13:55 UTC
[Icecast] Change fallback mount file automatically?
Oh -- then I did not understand the documentation. fallback-mount This optional value specifies a mountpoint that clients are automatically moved to if the source shuts down or is not streaming at the time a listener connects. Only one can be listed in each mount and should refer to another mountpoint on the same server that is streaming in the _same streaming format_. I was thinking that "same streaming format" referred to bitrate/channels, etc. Perhaps it means mp3 or ogg. Anyway, this is good news. Thank you. -- Jack Elliott Producer, The Point Wednesday Host, The Sunday Classics KPOV 88.9 High Desert Radio kpov.org On 6/24/2015 6:33 AM, Martin Jangowski wrote:> Am 24.06.2015 um 15:01 schrieb Jack Elliott 541 848 7021: >> Icecast allows using a fallback mount file which the listener will hear >> if the main mount stops. It is specified in icecast.xml as this example: >> >> <fallback-mount>/example2.ogg</fallback-mount> >> >> It is necessary that the file have the same bitrate and same format >> (single or two-channels) as the main mount. >> > > I regularly broadcast with 48kBit streaming rate (mp3, mono, 44kHz). > My fallback-file is a 244kBit, stereo, 44kHz, mp3 file. Works like a > charme.... > > Martin > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20150624/df569da7/attachment.htm
reflum, On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 06:55 -0700, that Jack Elliott wrote:> Oh -- then I did not understand the documentation. > > fallback-mount > This optional value specifies a mountpoint that clients are > automatically moved to if the source shuts down or is not streaming at > the time a listener connects. Only one can be listed in each mount and > should refer to another mountpoint on the same server that is > streaming in the _same streaming format_. > > I was thinking that "same streaming format" referred to > bitrate/channels, etc. Perhaps it means mp3 or ogg.I think this is just 80% of the story: *only the container needs to match. With Ogg you can in theory even change the used codec. But: Most players are broken in one or another way. The closer you are the better it will work. With MP3 non-matching parameters are likely going to break stuff. With Ogg based streams non-matching parameters are sometimes going to be a problem. At least you can variate effective bitrate with Ogg/Vorbis freely without any problems (as in contrast to MP3 bitrate is not related to the other parameters). Also note that MP3 is not officially supported and MP3 related requests are largely ignored. It may or may not work for you. If not: your problem. I recommend you to use any Ogg based codec as it would solve your problem perfectly (changing bitrates) and is supported, well tested, much better on all technical aspects and there are no license problems. Anyway: Have fun with your setup and thank you for using Icecast! -- Philipp. (Rah of PH2) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20150624/207af7f2/attachment.pgp
that Jack Elliott
2015-Jun-24 20:49 UTC
[Icecast] Change fallback mount file automatically?
Philipp, On 6/24/2015 1:31 PM, Philipp Schafft wrote:> reflum, > > On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 06:55 -0700, that Jack Elliott wrote: >> Oh -- then I did not understand the documentation. >> >> fallback-mount >> This optional value specifies a mountpoint that clients are >> automatically moved to if the source shuts down or is not streaming at >> the time a listener connects. Only one can be listed in each mount and >> should refer to another mountpoint on the same server that is >> streaming in the _same streaming format_. >> >> I was thinking that "same streaming format" referred to >> bitrate/channels, etc. Perhaps it means mp3 or ogg. > <snip> > > Also note that MP3 is not officially supported and MP3 related requests > are largely ignored. It may or may not work for you. If not: your > problem.Understood.> > I recommend you to use any Ogg based codec as it would solve your > problem perfectly (changing bitrates) and is supported, well tested, > much better on all technical aspects and there are no license problems.Understood. But the hosts at the radio station are not very technical and they are not very teachable. The player must operate under OSX, and the hosts are used to iTunes (which I despise) as the player. Perhaps it is possible to teach iTunes under OSX to play ogg. But of course that will be another unsupported combination. See here for a discussion about iTunes and ogg: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5483035?tstart=0 Or maybe I should set up a small unused laptop with Linux and put a player on it, and have it always on, but hidden away on a shelf, and connect the output of the laptop to the broadcast console. I must think about this.> > Anyway: Have fun with your setup and thank you for using Icecast! >Thank you for the support! -- Jack Elliott Producer, The Point Wednesday Host, The Sunday Classics KPOV 88.9 High Desert Radio kpov.org> > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20150624/edcd354f/attachment.htm