Hi 2013/2/27 Jos? Luis Artuch <artuch at speedy.com.ar>> > At least here, with loop and preload the problem persists. > I think it's a good option to use more than one alternative, like you > have on your website: > > <source src="http://www.radiogalere.org:8080/galere.mp3" > type='audio/mpeg'> > <source src="http://www.radiogalere.org:8080/galere.ogg" > type='audio/ogg'> >Just to be sure you understand, this alternative in ogg format is not here in case the mp3 stream is down, but to allow a full html5 exp?rience so 99% of our users can listen with html5 ( well 82% if I see http://caniuse.com/audio) But as you now , 50% of the browser don't support mp3 and 30% don't support ogg so the ogg/mp3 is the solution to avoid flash for 82% of your listeners. I though the preload="none" would change something but it seems not. Do you have any Burst option on your icecast.xml ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20130227/c32cbb9b/attachment.htm
Hi El mi?, 27-02-2013 a las 09:50 +0100, michel memeteau escribi?:> Hi > > 2013/2/27 Jos? Luis Artuch <artuch at speedy.com.ar> > At least here, with loop and preload the problem persists. > I think it's a good option to use more than one alternative, > like you > have on your website: > > <source src="http://www.radiogalere.org:8080/galere.mp3" > type='audio/mpeg'> > <source src="http://www.radiogalere.org:8080/galere.ogg" > type='audio/ogg'> > > > > > > Just to be sure you understand, this alternative in ogg format is not > here in case the mp3 stream is down, but to allow a full html5 > exp?rience so 99% of our users can listen with html5 ( well 82% if I > see http://caniuse.com/audio) >The stream in ogg is never present or is not present only when the mp3 stream is down ?. Are you using Icecast2 ? ... In http://www.radiogalere.org:8080 I can not see mountpoints :(> > But as you now , 50% of the browser don't support mp3 and 30% don't > support ogg so the ogg/mp3 is the solution to avoid flash for 82% of > your listeners. > > > I though the preload="none" would change something but it seems not. > Do you have any Burst option on your icecast.xml ? >I have not made ??many tests on "burst" and I've left burst values that icecast.xml has by default: <burst-on-connect>0</burst-on-connect> <burst-size>65535</burst-size> Examples: http://www.radioclaromeco.com.ar http://www.fmreta.com.ar (click to "ESCUCHAR!" at the top right) http://www.fmcristal3arroyos.com.ar I have seen many stations with burst 64k instead of 65k. What values ??do you use ?.> >
2013/2/27 Jos? Luis Artuch <artuch at speedy.com.ar>> The stream in ogg is never present or is not present only when the mp3 > stream is down ?. >No if a browser does not support mp3 it will jump to the ogg source, same the other way. you use the same for H264/webm fallback> Are you using Icecast2 ? ... In http://www.radiogalere.org:8080 I can > not see mountpoints :( >To enable shoutcast ( www.radiogalere.org:8443 ) to relay our icecast we made a link from http://www.radiogalere.org:8080 to http://www.radiogalere.org:8080/galere.mp3 and move the status page to http://www.radiogalere.org:8080/status :-)> > I have not made many tests on "burst" and I've left burst values that > icecast.xml has by default: > <burst-on-connect>0</burst-on-connect> > <burst-size>65535</burst-size> >> What values do you use ?. >I activated Burst 65k, and my html5 players start right away , do everybody confirm ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20130227/a3b3a829/attachment.htm
> <burst-size>65535</burst-size>> I have seen many stations with burst 64k instead of 65k.65536 = 64k Nonetheless, I wonder there's much difference between 64k and 65k burst... -- Xabier Oneca_,,_ _______________________________________________> Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20130227/4280df53/attachment.htm
El mi?, 27-02-2013 a las 13:59 +0100, Xabier Oneca -- xOneca escribi?:> > <burst-size>65535</burst-size> > > > I have seen many stations with burst 64k instead of 65k. > > 65536 = 64k > > Nonetheless, I wonder there's much difference between 64k and 65k > burst...Excuse me, the difference between 64k and 65k is not about "burst", this refers to "bitrate" in the source client configuration :))> _______________________________________________ > > Icecast mailing list > > Icecast at xiph.org > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >
My last sentence still aplies to the bitrate. We usually use 80kbps, but sometimes we have used 64kbps (e.g. when sourcing from a cellular network). With music you can get the difference, but with voice there's no need to use more bitrate unless you want more quality in the audio itself. -- Xabier Oneca_,,_ El 27/02/2013 15:19, "Jos? Luis Artuch" <artuch at speedy.com.ar> escribi?:> El mi?, 27-02-2013 a las 13:59 +0100, Xabier Oneca -- xOneca escribi?: > > > <burst-size>65535</burst-size> > > > > > I have seen many stations with burst 64k instead of 65k. > > > > 65536 = 64k > > > > Nonetheless, I wonder there's much difference between 64k and 65k > > burst... > > Excuse me, the difference between 64k and 65k is not about "burst", this > refers to "bitrate" in the source client configuration :)) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Icecast mailing list > > > Icecast at xiph.org > > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20130227/3115963a/attachment.htm