freebsd security - Sep 2004 - IPFW and icmp

I'm not a master of the internet RFCs, but I do believe icmp messages have
different types.

Now to enable traceroute for IPFW, I might put in a rule like this:

ipfw add pass icmp from any to me

However, how would I make a rule to limit icmp messages to just those used
by traceroute?  Can the messages be distinguished as such?

A dynamic rule that exists only for the duration of a traceroute execution
would be even better.  I take it 'setup' or 'check-state' would
follow in
that case?

On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:37:52 -0700 (PDT), Dave <mudman@metafocus.net>
wrote:
> 
> I'm not a master of the internet RFCs, but I do believe icmp messages
have
> different types.
> 
> Now to enable traceroute for IPFW, I might put in a rule like this:
> 
> ipfw add pass icmp from any to me
> 
> However, how would I make a rule to limit icmp messages to just those used
> by traceroute?  Can the messages be distinguished as such?
> 
> A dynamic rule that exists only for the duration of a traceroute execution
> would be even better.  I take it 'setup' or 'check-state'
would follow in
> that case?
> 
Dave,

  I can't comment much on how to build the exact rules you need, but
you should be made aware that different implementations of traceroute
achieve the results in different ways.  Cisco routers and most *nix
boxen use UDP packets while Microsoft stuff uses ICMP.  A good guide
to the difference:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/traceroute.shtml
>From a quick google search however, I find the following from: 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2004-February/001585.html

# TRACEROUTE - Allow outgoing
${fwcmd} add pass udp from any to any 33434-33523 out via ${oif}

Hope this helps!

--chip
-- 
Just my $.02, your mileage may vary,  batteries not included, etc....

Dave wrote:
>I'm not a master of the internet RFCs, but I do believe icmp messages
have
>different types.
>
>Now to enable traceroute for IPFW, I might put in a rule like this:
>
>ipfw add pass icmp from any to me
>
>However, how would I make a rule to limit icmp messages to just those used
>by traceroute?  Can the messages be distinguished as such?
>
>  
>
I use, thus far, "allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0,3,4,8,11". 
That
include 'echo request', of course.  Someone else may have a better idea.
>A dynamic rule that exists only for the duration of a traceroute execution
>would be even better.  I take it 'setup' or 'check-state'
would follow in
>that case?
>
>  
>
Seems likely. *sigh* one more manpage to read.... ;-)

Kevin Kinsey