Ferret talk - Jul 2006 - How to use the ruby only version of ferret?

Hey ..

I tried to use ferret on a development system for some days, but it 
keeps crashing with some glibc error message.. i understand that you''re
currently rewriting most of the c code .. meanwhile i would like to use 
the ruby only version, hoping that this will not crash my 
fastcgi-processes..

so some questions..

1st, how can i use the ruby only version of ferret? (i''ve installed 
ferret via gem on my linux box)

2nd, is there any non-binding roadmap or any date that a new, more 
stable version of ferret is going to be released?

i really like ferret, but it is currently not stable enough to use it on 
a production environment. i can send you any log or install any debug 
libraries, if this would help finding the bug.. my ferret is crashing at 
least twice a day.

Ben

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Hi!

On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 07:10:21PM +0200, Ben wrote:
[..]
> 1st, how can i use the ruby only version of ferret? (i''ve
installed
> ferret via gem on my linux box)
require ''rferret''
> 2nd, is there any non-binding roadmap or any date that a new, more 
> stable version of ferret is going to be released?
> 
> i really like ferret, but it is currently not stable enough to use it on 
> a production environment. i can send you any log or install any debug 
> libraries, if this would help finding the bug.. my ferret is crashing at 
> least twice a day.
you could try Ferret 0.3.2, it''s been the last revision before the 
0.9.x versions and generally has been very stable. 

On the other hand there are people (at least me ;-)) who are using 
Ferret 0.9.x in production environments without problems. It might help
if you could provide more information on when the error occurs, and
what''s the exact error.

Jens


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hey jens,
> require ''rferret''
thank you
> On the other hand there are people (at least me ;-)) who are using
> Ferret 0.9.x in production environments without problems. It might help
> if you could provide more information on when the error occurs, and
> what''s the exact error.
well, errors like that: http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/74389#new

most of the time i get some non-descriptive glibc errors or something 
with a [BUG] prefix :)

How can i produce more detailed error messages? What i am currently able 
to see won''t help you ..

Ben

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Jens Kraemer wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 07:10:21PM +0200, Ben wrote:
> [..]
>> 1st, how can i use the ruby only version of ferret? (i''ve
installed
>> ferret via gem on my linux box)
> 
> require ''rferret''
> 
>> 2nd, is there any non-binding roadmap or any date that a new, more 
>> stable version of ferret is going to be released?
>> 
>> i really like ferret, but it is currently not stable enough to use it
on
>> a production environment. i can send you any log or install any debug 
>> libraries, if this would help finding the bug.. my ferret is crashing
at
>> least twice a day.
> 
> you could try Ferret 0.3.2, it''s been the last revision before the
> 0.9.x versions and generally has been very stable.
> 
> On the other hand there are people (at least me ;-)) who are using
> Ferret 0.9.x in production environments without problems.
You''ve probably just been lucky. I have seen 0.9.x (and 0.3.x) crashing
on several different platforms. Everything works in the beginning, 
sometimes for a few weeks, but then I add more and more documents, the 
index gets larger, and at some point querys just start segfaulting. At 
least I haven''t seen any more indexing segfaults since 0.9.x,
that''s
definetely an improvement...

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Hey ..

i can reproduce these crashes without any problem, so if there is any 
way on how i can contribute to the ferret project, let me know. I''m 
running Linux 2.6.15 on a Opteron (x86_64, dual core). I can even give 
you acces to the server if that might help analysing the problems.

David, I would like to go live with my project by the end of october and 
i need a stable version of a search engine to do that. so please let me 
know if i should wait for a couple of weeks or if i should start to look 
for alternatives as well.

Unfortunately, the ruby only version of ferret is not an option as it is 
far to slow.

Ben

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On 7/30/06, Ben <bk at benjaminkrause.com> wrote:
> Hey ..
>
> i can reproduce these crashes without any problem, so if there is any
> way on how i can contribute to the ferret project, let me know.
I''m
> running Linux 2.6.15 on a Opteron (x86_64, dual core). I can even give
> you acces to the server if that might help analysing the problems.
If you are still having problems when I get the next version out I''ll
definitely take you up on the offer. I''m working on Ferret full time
from now until I finish the next version so hopefully that will be
very soon.
> David, I would like to go live with my project by the end of october and
> i need a stable version of a search engine to do that. so please let me
> know if i should wait for a couple of weeks or if i should start to look
> for alternatives as well.
I would be very disappointed if Ferret wasn''t stable be October. And
with access to your server I should definitely be able to make it
stable for your system at least.

Cheers,
Dave

David Balmain schrieb:
> I would be very disappointed if Ferret wasn''t stable be October.
And
> with access to your server I should definitely be able to make it
> stable for your system at least.
>   
David,

great to hear.. i''m currently starting my testing phase.. we got
several
different queries and a lot of people testing.. searches are a very
imporant as we included many live-searches, all based on ferret.
one thing i can definately say is that fuzzy searches are broken.. as
far as i see it, all crashes are related to a #{query}~0.6 call. But it
seems to depend on the word you''ve been searching for. Some words like
''star'' are working, others like ''memories''
aren''t.

Ben