dovecot - Mar 2020 - store log file in mailbox / mailfolder

I have given up on using any spam training with Outlook because Outlook
seems rebuild the mails when you touch them.

What it broke here:

* Received Headers reshuffled and useless
* x-mailer set to outlook

There are multiple bug reports about this and MS seems to have fixed it
once in Outlook 2010 but broke it again sometime later.

I would be careful not to spam-report yourself with those mails since
they sometimes are rewritten to originate from your hosts by outlook.
Only the body seems to be preserved and even that might be re-encoded
with base64.

Regards,

Claudius


On 05.03.2020 09:46, Aki Tuomi wrote:
> Ah.
>
> This is because you only match COPY, and outlook is doing APPEND+EXPUNGE
> instead.
>
> Aki
>
> On 5.3.2020 10.39, ?zg?r Kazancci wrote:
>> Hi Aki!
>>
>> Thank you for your reply.
>>
>> Sure, here are the related lines within my conf files and sieve
>> scripts: https://hastepaste.com/view/Erk8Ra
>>
>> Thank you so much,
>> Regards.
>>
>> Aki Tuomi <aki.tuomi at open-xchange.com>, 5 Mar 2020 Per, 11:31
>> tarihinde ?unu yazd?:
>>> On 5.3.2020 9.00, ?zg?r Kazancci wrote:
>>>> Greetings everyone.
>>>>
>>>> My dovecot mail server doesn't execute *train-spam.sh*
script I set,
>>>> when moving an e-mail from "Inbox" to
"Junk" within Outlook.
>>>>
>>>> However, it does it fine when using an online webmail client
a.k.a.
>>>> Roundcube Webmail.
>>>>
>>>> Here are few lines from my maillog file showing the situation.
Any
>>>> idea would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Log output of the mentioned process:
>>>>
>>>> From Outlook 2016 (Move from Inbox to Junk folder)
>>>> Mar  5 07:50:37 mailserver1 dovecot:
>>>> imap(info at
mydomain.com)<72501><uGYu6hWgeupOrFX1>: delete: box=INBOX,
>>>> uid=10, msgid=<016f01d5f248$45900090$d0b001b0$@test.xxx>,
size=3344
>>>> Mar  5 07:50:37 mailserver1 dovecot:
>>>> imap(info at
mydomain.com)<72501><uGYu6hWgeupOrFX1>: expunge: box=INBOX,
>>>> uid=10, msgid=<016f01d5f248$45900090$d0b001b0$@test.xxx>,
size=3344
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From Roundcube Webmail (Move from Inbox to Junk folder)
>>>> Mar  5 07:48:45 mailserver1 dovecot:
>>>> imap(info at
mydomain.com)<14673></W6k7RWgyEl/AAAB>: sieve: pipe action:
>>>> piped message to program `train-spam.sh'
>>>> Mar  5 07:48:45 mailserver1 dovecot:
>>>> imap(info at
mydomain.com)<14673></W6k7RWgyEl/AAAB>: sieve: left message
>>>> in mailbox 'Junk'
>>>> Mar  5 07:48:45 mailserver1 dovecot:
>>>> imap(info at
mydomain.com)<14673></W6k7RWgyEl/AAAB>: copy from INBOX:
>>>> box=Junk, uid=9, msgid=<2eed864c2c38a690349e87dbd271e474 at
test.xxx>,
>>>> size=1214
>>>> Mar  5 07:48:45 mailserver1 dovecot:
>>>> imap(info at
mydomain.com)<14673></W6k7RWgyEl/AAAB>: expunge: box=INBOX,
>>>> uid=15, msgid=<2eed864c2c38a690349e87dbd271e474 at
test.xxx>, size=1214
>>>>
>>>> Dovecot version: 2.3.9.3 running on OpenBSD 6.6
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> ?zg?r.
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Can you share your sieve script too?
>>>
>>> Aki
>>>

Say I am running some script on a user's mail account. What is the 
easiest way to store the log output of this script directly into a mail 
folder of this user? I do not want to send a message to the inbox.

On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 12:53:32 +0100, Claudius stated:
>There are multiple bug reports about this and MS seems to have fixed it
>once in Outlook 2010 but broke it again sometime later.
Outlook 2010 is ancient. Exactly where did you find these bug reports?
Have you tried submitting a new bug report? I assume you are using the
latest version of MS Outlook.

-- 
Gerard
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On 05.03.2020 16:26, Jerry wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 12:53:32 +0100, Claudius stated:
>> There are multiple bug reports about this and MS seems to have fixed it
>> once in Outlook 2010 but broke it again sometime later.
> Outlook 2010 is ancient. Exactly where did you find these bug reports?
> Have you tried submitting a new bug report? I assume you are using the
> latest version of MS Outlook.
>
I think I was confusing it with the last working version. 2010 didn't
have the issue. 2013 has/had it.

Here is the thread I bookmarked when trying to resolve this before
giving up and shelving it:
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/8eafe714-8a8c-44bc-9228-d6a68731494f/outlook-2013-behavior-as-an-imap-client

I think nothing has been fixed as Outlook still does APPEND.

Regards,

Claudius

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On 05 Mar 2020, at 07:00, Marc Roos <M.Roos at f1-outsourcing.eu>
wrote:
> Say I am running some script on a user's mail account. What is the 
> easiest way to store the log output of this script directly into a mail 
> folder of this user? I do not want to send a message to the inbox.
command > /path/to/file

R dp you mean so that the log file appears as a ?email? for the user?You?ll need
to make a fake message and put the log file in the body, put that in the mail
folder with appropriate permssionds and filename, an possibly rebuild the index.

Or, far simpler, would be to send a message to the inbox.




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