On Sunday 16 December 2018 21:55:23 Timo Sirainen wrote:> On 16 Dec 2018, at 21.26, Pali Roh?r <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > I found bug in Dovecot's IDLE implementation when virtual mailbox is in > > use. IDLE does not notify about new emails when email appears in newly > > created mailbox and IDLE was issued in virtual folder which matches "*" > > wildcard and that mailbox was created after opening virtual mailbox. > > It actually has nothing to do with IDLE specifically. It's just that the virtual storage code doesn't try to look for new folders after the virtual mailbox is opened. > > > To get notifications, it is needed to re-open that "All" mailbox again. > > Right. I don't think this is going to be fixed anytime soon. Quite a lot of effort and it can be worked around.How to workaround it? Imap clients uses either IDLE or STATUS or LIST (with STATUS) commands for checking if there is a new messages. But none of these commands reports existence of new message until that virtual folder is re-opened. -- Pali Roh?r pali.rohar at gmail.com
On 17 Dec 2018, at 10.44, Pali Roh?r <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:> > On Sunday 16 December 2018 21:55:23 Timo Sirainen wrote: >> On 16 Dec 2018, at 21.26, Pali Roh?r <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello! >>> >>> I found bug in Dovecot's IDLE implementation when virtual mailbox is in >>> use. IDLE does not notify about new emails when email appears in newly >>> created mailbox and IDLE was issued in virtual folder which matches "*" >>> wildcard and that mailbox was created after opening virtual mailbox. >> >> It actually has nothing to do with IDLE specifically. It's just that the virtual storage code doesn't try to look for new folders after the virtual mailbox is opened. >> >>> To get notifications, it is needed to re-open that "All" mailbox again. >> >> Right. I don't think this is going to be fixed anytime soon. Quite a lot of effort and it can be worked around. > > How to workaround it? Imap clients uses either IDLE or STATUS or LIST > (with STATUS) commands for checking if there is a new messages. > > But none of these commands reports existence of new message until that > virtual folder is re-opened.I mean, workaround is for the user to just reopen the folder. I think it's not very common for this situation to happen and cause problems?
On Monday 17 December 2018 10:50:16 Timo Sirainen wrote:> On 17 Dec 2018, at 10.44, Pali Roh?r <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sunday 16 December 2018 21:55:23 Timo Sirainen wrote: > >> On 16 Dec 2018, at 21.26, Pali Roh?r <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hello! > >>> > >>> I found bug in Dovecot's IDLE implementation when virtual mailbox is in > >>> use. IDLE does not notify about new emails when email appears in newly > >>> created mailbox and IDLE was issued in virtual folder which matches "*" > >>> wildcard and that mailbox was created after opening virtual mailbox. > >> > >> It actually has nothing to do with IDLE specifically. It's just that the virtual storage code doesn't try to look for new folders after the virtual mailbox is opened. > >> > >>> To get notifications, it is needed to re-open that "All" mailbox again. > >> > >> Right. I don't think this is going to be fixed anytime soon. Quite a lot of effort and it can be worked around. > > > > How to workaround it? Imap clients uses either IDLE or STATUS or LIST > > (with STATUS) commands for checking if there is a new messages. > > > > But none of these commands reports existence of new message until that > > virtual folder is re-opened. > > I mean, workaround is for the user to just reopen the folder. I think it's not very common for this situation to happen and cause problems?My setup is that I have sieve filters to put emails from mailing lists, bugzilla/github/gitlab/... and other projects into separate own mailbox, based on email headers which these services provides. So once I get email from new bugzilla, github or gitlab project, then sieve automatically creates a new mailbox for it. And this happen every time when I e.g. add a new comment to bugzilla project into which I have not commented yet. I'm having permanently opened mutt email client in tmux/screen on "All" virtual folder to see all new emails. And basically above bug cause problems in this scenario as I would not see new emails. I can re-open "All" mailbox, but first I need to know that new email was received. And for this I'm using mutt IDLing in All virtual folder. So it is like chicken and egg problem. -- Pali Roh?r pali.rohar at gmail.com