dovecot - Nov 2014 - Probably K9 not Outlook - Re: Outlook 2010 not connecting to secure POP3

On 11/23/2014 05:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 23.11.2014 um 23:30 schrieb Robert Moskowitz:
>> On 11/23/2014 04:45 PM, Robert Schetterer wrote:
>>> Am 23.11.2014 um 22:33 schrieb Reindl Harald:
>>>> no idea what you are talking about
>>>>
>>>> K9 is a android client and works fine with TLS
>>>>
>>>> no idea what has "https" to do with email nor why
someone needs to
>>>> "disable K9 long enugh" whatever "long
enough" is - don't get me wrong
>>>> but most technical context on several lists of you if it comes
to
>>>> details is cluttered and your permanently "i am working on
IETF" even
>>>> makes things worser
>>> Yeah, such descriptions are leading to confusion, speculation
>>> k9 got mail downloaded before outlook could....no idea why sombody
>>> should use k9 with pop3
>>
>> And I did not know there was a K9 android app.  K9 like in guard dogs.
>
> that's why you should be precise in what you are posting - in context 
> of mail K9 is for pretty anybody 
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9
Got it for next time.
>
>> The default settings only allow https stuff on port 443.  Must be some
>> attempt to get around controls to use TLS on any other port.
>
> uhm "telnet server port" is still the way to go *before* start
other
> debuggings, if that don't work no need to try a high level client 
> until that problem is solved
Well, since this was a secure connection test, needed openssl for the 
connect, not telnet.  And how to do that on Windows?  I DID try it on 
this F20 notebook, and of course it worked just fine.  That was why I 
really suspected Windows TLS functions.  Then when I was trying again, I 
caught a little pop up in the system tray saying how the nanny software 
was blocking the bad program that was trying to do https to port 995...

I really should be so harsh about the nanny software.  It DOES protect a 
lot of families from content they do not want to see. Just that the 
defaults no longer match where we want internet privacy to go.

> Well, since this was a secure connection test, needed openssl for the
> connect, not telnet.  And how to do that on Windows?  I DID try it on
> this F20 notebook, and of course it worked just fine.  That was why I
> really suspected Windows TLS functions.  Then when I was trying again, I
> caught a little pop up in the system tray saying how the nanny software
> was blocking the bad program that was trying to do https to port 995...
Hey Robert,
There is a command on linux to test ssl/tls smtp server :
openssl s_client -connect mail.example.com:port -starttls smtp

You just need openssl for windows here :
http://slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html

Let me know if this is working.
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> Hey Robert,
> There is a command on linux to test ssl/tls smtp server :
> openssl s_client -connect mail.example.com:port -starttls smtp
> 
> You just need openssl for windows here :
> http://slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html
> 
> Let me know if this is working.
> Regards
> 
By the way if this isn't working,
try connecting to your server via Mozilla Thunderbird. You'll get fixed
if this is related to K9 or to your server.

Regards
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On 11/23/2014 06:35 PM, Bertrand Caplet wrote:
>> Well, since this was a secure connection test, needed openssl for the
>> connect, not telnet.  And how to do that on Windows?  I DID try it on
>> this F20 notebook, and of course it worked just fine.  That was why I
>> really suspected Windows TLS functions.  Then when I was trying again,
I
>> caught a little pop up in the system tray saying how the nanny software
>> was blocking the bad program that was trying to do https to port 995...
> Hey Robert,
> There is a command on linux to test ssl/tls smtp server :
> openssl s_client -connect mail.example.com:port -starttls smtp
That I knew and used.
> You just need openssl for windows here :
> http://slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html
>
> Let me know if this is working.
Will try this on the family computer.  For any future needs...

thanks

Am 24.11.2014 um 00:35 schrieb Bertrand Caplet:
>> Well, since this was a secure connection test, needed openssl for the
>> connect, not telnet.  And how to do that on Windows?  I DID try it on
>> this F20 notebook, and of course it worked just fine.  That was why I
>> really suspected Windows TLS functions.  Then when I was trying again,
I
>> caught a little pop up in the system tray saying how the nanny software
>> was blocking the bad program that was trying to do https to port 995...
> Hey Robert,
> There is a command on linux to test ssl/tls smtp server :
> openssl s_client -connect mail.example.com:port -starttls smtp
> 
> You just need openssl for windows here :
> http://slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html
this proves not outlook working, on windows
there is maybe proxy stuff installed etc
> 
> Let me know if this is working.
> Regards
> 


Best Regards
MfG Robert Schetterer

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