dovecot - Aug 2013 - Fileoperations in Maildir – problematic or okay?

Hi,

I'm wondering: Is it a problem to move and delete files inside a
dovecot-managed maildir?

For example:
I have a folder ~/.maildir/.Sub1.Start/cur and a folder
~/.maildir/.Sub1.Start.old/cur
and like to regularly move old mails from the first to the second one.
Can you create a cron job saying something like:
find ~/.maildir/.Sub1.Start/cur -mtime +5 -exec mv {}
~/.maildir/.Sub1.Start.old/cur \;
?

I guess this would be some sort of problem, wouldn't it?
IIRC dovecot keeps indexes of the files inside a folder and moving them around
like this may confuse the software, am I right?


bye
Martin

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On Mon, 5 Aug 2013, Martin Burgraf wrote:
> I'm wondering: Is it a problem to move and delete files inside a
dovecot-managed maildir?
>
> For example:
> I have a folder ~/.maildir/.Sub1.Start/cur and a folder
~/.maildir/.Sub1.Start.old/cur
> and like to regularly move old mails from the first to the second one.
> Can you create a cron job saying something like:
> find ~/.maildir/.Sub1.Start/cur -mtime +5 -exec mv {}
~/.maildir/.Sub1.Start.old/cur \;
> ?
>
> I guess this would be some sort of problem, wouldn't it?
No problem with it basically, if both directories are located at the same 
parition (under the same mountpoint), in order to use the "rename()" 
syscall. Dovecot (and Maildir spec) expects the permissions a.s.o. in 
place when a file is seen in a folder new or cur. Also mtime should not 
change.

If you use keywords (labels, ...) they should be present in both folders, 
though. Look at the dovecot-keywords files, in it all relevant keywords 
must map to the same letter / digit. That also means: You cannot have more 
than 36 keywords per mailbox, because the others are storred in the index 
files only.

I use something like this:

find ..... -print0 | xargs -r0 mv -t target-dir

Regards,

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Steffen Kaiser
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On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:36:44 +0200 (CEST)
"Martin Burgraf" <martin.bg at web.de> wrote:
> find ~/.maildir/.Sub1.Start/cur -mtime +5 -exec mv {}
> ~/.maildir/.Sub1.Start.old/cur \; ?
instead of using find / mv you could use dovecot's 'doveadm' command
to
search/move/expunge messages

see:
http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Tools/Doveadm
http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Tools/Doveadm/Move

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