I don't if this has been discussed before - or already implemented - but it would be great if I could define one or more "aliases" for a folder. A particular example might be "Sent" where different (badly-written) clients might have hard-coded "Sent" folder locations like "Sent", "Sent Items", "Sent Mail", "Mail Delivered", etc. - and I'd love to get those consolidated. It would also be nice to show a different set of folders based on the client - or if that's not possible (if the client doesn't identify itself as part of the login sequence) then somehow via login name - maybe by an extension? So where my usual login might be "user at domain.com", and that would continue to be supported as the default login, I could now have "user at domain.com+thunderbird", "user at domain.com+mobile", etc.? -- Daniel
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Daniel L. Miller wrote:> I don't if this has been discussed before - or already implemented - but it > would be great if I could define one or more "aliases" for a folder. A > particular example might be "Sent" where different (badly-written) clients > might have hard-coded "Sent" folder locations like "Sent", "Sent Items", > "Sent Mail", "Mail Delivered", etc. - and I'd love to get those consolidated. > > It would also be nice to show a different set of folders based on the client > - or if that's not possible (if the client doesn't identify itself as part of > the login sequence) then somehow via login name - maybe by an extension? So > where my usual login might be "user at domain.com", and that would continue to > be supported as the default login, I could now have > "user at domain.com+thunderbird", "user at domain.com+mobile", etc.?Because the IMAP client does not identify itself, the server does not know, which alias to return to the client. I'm not convinced that the extension method you describe will be widely accepted. I definitely would like a solution for this problem as well. But if the server would return all aliases, most recent clients will at least download all headers from all of them (not knowing about that they are all equal); if the server would return just one alias, the client would assume that its folder has been deleted and redownload the sent message as soon as the folder re-appears. I wonder whether the users would accept, if the sent items are located in one specified folder (say "sent-mail"), but the other aliases are "virtual" folders, which are always empty and when a message is placed there, it is placed into the main folder actually. The users (of such badly written IMAP clients, in which you cannot select the actual name of the Sent-Folder) can not use the built-in sent-folder anymore, but need to select one "normal"-looking folder named "sent-mail" explicitly. Bye, - -- Steffen Kaiser -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJG9z5VJMDrex4hCIRApCdAJ4xoW01wkoHCdRyTqDjegtiOMxS8QCfaRu8 t5Lj6BCmXnjKXbt8YOOZo1E=iLGu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Daniel L. Miller wrote:> It would also be nice to show a different set of folders based on the > client - or if that's not possible (if the client doesn't identify > itself as part of the login sequence) then somehow via login name - > maybe by an extension? So where my usual login might be > "user at domain.com", and that would continue to be supported as the > default login, I could now have "user at domain.com+thunderbird", > "user at domain.com+mobile", etc.?Different clients can normally have different sets of folder subscriptions, would that not do what you want? - Christian
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Christian Lange wrote:> Different clients can normally have different sets of folder > subscriptions, would that not do what you want?If you use different devices, e.g. a mobile phone or PDA and Outlook or Thunderbird, you get in troubles, because both may have a very specific view on the folders on IMAP, but the user wants to have all sent mails in one folder, not to mention all deleted mail. This goes on, if you want to do server-side stuff, e.g. clean the trash-folder now and then etc. Even the trash folder is _not_ fixed by standard. Elder versions of Mozilla and Outlook used localized names for their folders, so even the native language effected the names. The alias-feature alone will not overcome the problems, because the admin (or user) still needs to configure the aliases for a specific set of mail clients. Bye, - -- Steffen Kaiser -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJG/9+VJMDrex4hCIRAo2YAKCgo8rHYe8T40eTbDt/jZDWhF8xEgCg0Leq ZiIsT4XyMmw7JDa1b8oaSp4=Z5Fz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----