Hello, currently we are storing the incoming mail in the user's home directory, which is within a distributed filesystem called AFS (OpenAFS). Accessing the "mbox" file directly (using the distributed filesystem) works fine with mutt, thunderbird, ... To access the INBOX from a machine, which does not have access to this distributed filesystem, we are using IMAP (UW-imap). Now I wanted to check if dovecot can do the job (maybe faster than UW), and I had the following problem: This is my configuration: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # 1.1.4: /opt/dovecot-1.1.4/etc/dovecot.conf log_path: /var/log/dovecot ssl_cert_file: /etc/ssl/certs/imapd.pem ssl_key_file: /etc/ssl/keys/imapd.pem login_dir: /var/run/dovecot/login login_executable: /opt/dovecot-1.1.4/libexec/dovecot/imap-login first_valid_uid: 100 mail_location: mbox:~/Mail:INBOX=~/.maildir/incoming mail_debug: yes mmap_disable: yes mail_nfs_storage: yes mail_nfs_index: yes mbox_write_locks: fcntl mbox_dirty_syncs: no mbox_lazy_writes: no mail_executable: /opt/dovecot-1.1.4/libexec/dovecot/afs-token /opt/dovecot-1.1.4/libexec/dovecot/imap auth default: verbose: yes debug: yes passdb: driver: pam args: setcred=yes session=yes dovecot userdb: driver: passwd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When I start my imap-client, I see the content of the INBOX, and I can read, delete, ... the different entries. But when new mail arrives dovecot (and my imap-client) will never notice this. And when I quit my imap-client the dovecot imap server will write back its view of the INBOX, and delete this new mail. This seems to be a problem related to AFS. I poked in the dovecot code and have the following theory: dovecot opens the INBOX R/W, dovecot calls "stat" on the INBOX file periodically to look for modifications. But this does not work, because this machine will stat the local copy (AFS cache) of the INBOX as long as this file is still open R/W. My questions: Is it possible to have a configuration, that the INBOX file is not left open when stat-ing this file? Or is it possible to open the INBOX file R/W only when it us locked? Or is it necessary to modify the code? Thank you for any help, HW -- Hans-Werner Paulsen hans at MPA-Garching.MPG.DE MPI f?r Astrophysik Tel 089-30000-2602 Karl-Schwarzschild-Str. 1 Fax 089-30000-2235 D-85741 Garching
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:16 +0200, Hans-Werner Paulsen wrote:> When I start my imap-client, I see the content of the INBOX, and I can > read, delete, ... the different entries. But when new mail arrives dovecot > (and my imap-client) will never notice this. And when I quit my imap-client > the dovecot imap server will write back its view of the INBOX, and delete > this new mail. > This seems to be a problem related to AFS. I poked in the dovecot code and > have the following theory: dovecot opens the INBOX R/W, dovecot calls "stat" > on the INBOX file periodically to look for modifications. But this does > not work, because this machine will stat the local copy (AFS cache) of the > INBOX as long as this file is still open R/W.I'd have thought that the local view was updated at least after fcntl locking the mailbox.> My questions: > Is it possible to have a configuration, that the INBOX file is not left open > when stat-ing this file? > Or is it possible to open the INBOX file R/W only when it us locked? > Or is it necessary to modify the code?It's necessary to modify the code. Probably not difficult (maybe in mbox_unlock()), but I'd rather not change that code permanently since this is a pretty AFS-specific problem.. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <http://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20081020/88c6ddfe/attachment-0002.bin>
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 06:56:55PM +0300, Timo Sirainen wrote:> On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:16 +0200, Hans-Werner Paulsen wrote: > > When I start my imap-client, I see the content of the INBOX, and I can > > read, delete, ... the different entries. But when new mail arrives dovecot > > (and my imap-client) will never notice this. And when I quit my imap-client > > the dovecot imap server will write back its view of the INBOX, and delete > > this new mail. > > This seems to be a problem related to AFS. I poked in the dovecot code and > > have the following theory: dovecot opens the INBOX R/W, dovecot calls "stat" > > on the INBOX file periodically to look for modifications. But this does > > not work, because this machine will stat the local copy (AFS cache) of the > > INBOX as long as this file is still open R/W. > > I'd have thought that the local view was updated at least after fcntl > locking the mailbox. > > > My questions: > > Is it possible to have a configuration, that the INBOX file is not left open > > when stat-ing this file? > > Or is it possible to open the INBOX file R/W only when it us locked? > > Or is it necessary to modify the code? > > It's necessary to modify the code. Probably not difficult (maybe in > mbox_unlock()), but I'd rather not change that code permanently since > this is a pretty AFS-specific problem.. >I checked flock (fcntl locking is not working at all) semantics on the AFS filesystem with some small test programs: Calling flock does NOT update the local view of the AFS file, if it is opened R/W. But, status information seems to be up-to-date if the file is opened R/O. Now I want to modify the dovecot code for mbox processing in the following way: open the mbox R/O before modifying the mbox file: close it, dot-lock the file and open it R/W after modifying the mbox file: close it, remove the dot-lock, and open it R/O Any hints in which files I have to look for the necessary modifications? Thank you for your help, HW -- Hans-Werner Paulsen hans at MPA-Garching.MPG.DE MPI f?r Astrophysik Tel 089-30000-2602 Karl-Schwarzschild-Str. 1 Fax 089-30000-2235 D-85741 Garching