Daniel Watts
2008-Aug-13 16:12 UTC
[Dovecot] Marking as Read causes Body.Peek on ALL messages - Reasonable?
I've noticed when I select a folder of messages (Thunderbird) and mark
them all as read (or unread) it produces the following IMAP transcript:
Source Destination Info
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: DONE
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: 20 OK Idle completed.
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 21 uid store 1:20 -Flags (\Seen)
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 1 FETCH (UID 1 FLAGS (\Recent NonJunk))
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 22 UID fetch 2 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 2 FETCH (UID 2 RFC822.SIZE 1339 BODY[] {1339}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 23 UID fetch 3 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 3 FETCH (UID 3 RFC822.SIZE 1342 BODY[] {1342}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 24 UID fetch 5 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 5 FETCH (UID 5 RFC822.SIZE 1344 BODY[] {1344}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 25 UID fetch 6 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 6 FETCH (UID 6 RFC822.SIZE 1350 BODY[] {1350}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 26 UID fetch 7 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 7 FETCH (UID 7 RFC822.SIZE 1344 BODY[] {1344}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 27 UID fetch 8 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 8 FETCH (UID 8 RFC822.SIZE 1325 BODY[] {1325}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 28 UID fetch 9 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 9 FETCH (UID 9 RFC822.SIZE 1323 BODY[] {1323}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 29 UID fetch 10 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 10 FETCH (UID 10 RFC822.SIZE 1338 BODY[] {1338}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 30 UID fetch 11 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 11 FETCH (UID 11 RFC822.SIZE 1333 BODY[] {1333}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 31 UID fetch 12 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 12 FETCH (UID 12 RFC822.SIZE 1344 BODY[] {1344}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 32 UID fetch 13 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 13 FETCH (UID 13 RFC822.SIZE 1335 BODY[] {1335}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 33 UID fetch 15 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 15 FETCH (UID 15 RFC822.SIZE 1323 BODY[] {1323}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 34 UID fetch 16 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 16 FETCH (UID 16 RFC822.SIZE 1325 BODY[] {1325}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 35 UID fetch 17 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 17 FETCH (UID 17 RFC822.SIZE 1333 BODY[] {1333}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 36 UID fetch 18 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 18 FETCH (UID 18 RFC822.SIZE 1327 BODY[] {1327}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 37 UID fetch 19 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 19 FETCH (UID 19 RFC822.SIZE 1343 BODY[] {1343}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 38 UID fetch 20 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[])
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 20 FETCH (UID 20 RFC822.SIZE 1337 BODY[] {1337}
c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 39 IDLE
s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: + idling
NOTE:
c.c.c.c = client (thunderbird)
s.s.s.s = server (dovecot 1.1.2)
Is this reasonable? I thought it would be possible to just send a list
of message UIDs and say mark these as /seen /unseen etc.
Of course this could (is probably) just Thunderbird being braindead but
confirmation would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Daniel
Timo Sirainen
2008-Aug-13 17:54 UTC
[Dovecot] Marking as Read causes Body.Peek on ALL messages - Reasonable?
On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Daniel Watts wrote:> I've noticed when I select a folder of messages (Thunderbird) and > mark them all as read (or unread) it produces the following IMAP > transcript: > > Source Destination Info > c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: DONE > s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: 20 OK Idle completed. > c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 21 uid store 1:20 -Flags (\Seen) > s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 1 FETCH (UID 1 FLAGS (\Recent NonJunk)) > c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 22 UID fetch 2 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[]) > s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 2 FETCH (UID 2 RFC822.SIZE 1339 BODY[] > {1339}.. Looks a bit stupid. But I'd guess it's related to Thunderbird being configured to download mail when reading it and it treats setting \Seen the same as reading it. Just a guess though.> Is this reasonable? I thought it would be possible to just send a > list of message UIDs and say mark these as /seen /unseen etc.Sure, it would be possible. Also if Thunderbird really wants to fetch these messages' bodies, it could have done it using a single command instead of 20 separate ones.. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PGP.sig Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 194 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <http://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20080813/c3dc52b9/attachment-0002.bin>
Daniel Watts
2008-Aug-13 19:00 UTC
[Dovecot] Marking as Read causes Body.Peek on ALL messages - Reasonable?
>> I've noticed when I select a folder of messages (Thunderbird) and >> mark them all as read (or unread) it produces the following IMAP >> transcript: >> >> Source Destination Info >> c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: DONE >> s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: 20 OK Idle completed. >> c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 21 uid store 1:20 -Flags (\Seen) >> s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 1 FETCH (UID 1 FLAGS (\Recent >> NonJunk)) >> c.c.c.c s.s.s.s Request: 22 UID fetch 2 (UID RFC822.SIZE >> BODY.PEEK[]) >> s.s.s.s c.c.c.c Response: * 2 FETCH (UID 2 RFC822.SIZE 1339 >> BODY[] {1339} > .. > > Looks a bit stupid. But I'd guess it's related to Thunderbird being > configured to download mail when reading it and it treats setting > \Seen the same as reading it. Just a guess though.It becomes a bit of a problem when done in a folder of 40,000 messages - locks up the program for ages and hammers the server a bit too.> >> Is this reasonable? I thought it would be possible to just send a >> list of message UIDs and say mark these as /seen /unseen etc. > > Sure, it would be possible. Also if Thunderbird really wants to fetch > these messages' bodies, it could have done it using a single command > instead of 20 separate ones.. >Perhaps it does it one by one incase there are a lot of messages.... but it could chunk them at least. Timo - thanks as always for your help with this, particularly as it is slightly OT. Ever thought about writing your own mail client? =) Perhaps LightningDove! The more I use Thunderbird the more I find it totally insane. Still better than going back to Outlook (thought not tried 2007 yet). Dan
Charles Marcus
2008-Aug-13 19:06 UTC
[Dovecot] Marking as Read causes Body.Peek on ALL messages - Reasonable?
On 8/13/2008, Daniel Watts (d at nielwatts.com) wrote:> The more I use Thunderbird the more I find it totally insane.Did you file a bug report? I imagine this is something that could use some fixing, and there is a much higher chance that the TBird devs will listen than most other clients... I actually like TBird quite a bit, although some things really bug me (like the lack of a proper Signature Manager, the inability to tell it to use the same Server Settings for sending as receiving, etc)... -- Best regards, Charles
Daniel Watts
2008-Aug-15 13:54 UTC
[Dovecot] Marking as Read causes Body.Peek on ALL messages - Reasonable?
Charles Marcus wrote:> On 8/13/2008, Daniel Watts (d at nielwatts.com) wrote: >> The more I use Thunderbird the more I find it totally insane. > > Did you file a bug report? I imagine this is something that could use > some fixing, and there is a much higher chance that the TBird devs will > listen than most other clients... > > I actually like TBird quite a bit, although some things really bug me > (like the lack of a proper Signature Manager, the inability to tell it > to use the same Server Settings for sending as receiving, etc)... >Bug submitted now. Response pretty quick actually though they say it is because I must have either Spam detection or Offline Files on - I have neither enabled. Will go back.