On 7/22/23 02:29, Gordon Messmer wrote:> On 2023-07-21 00:30, Lee Thomas Stephen wrote:
>> But for my business, I do not want to pay Red Hat, Zimbra, or Google 
>> Workspace.
>> Why ?
>> Because the general rule seems to be
>> Oh! You are an individual, we will offer you affordable/free service
>> What! You are a business, we will offer you extremely
'unaffordable'
>> service.
>> Because being a 'business' by default means you have a
'lot' of money
>> to waste.
>
>
> I'm not a Red Hat employee, so I'm not positive how they would
respond
> to that.? But, speaking as a customer who has worked with numerous 
> enterprise support agreements over several decades, I want to suggest 
> that the issue isn't that Red Hat assumes that businesses have a lot 
> of money to spend, it's that they're targeting a set of the market 
> that you might not be in right now.
>
> From my point of view, Red Hat doesn't really sell software. They give 
> away software.? All of their software is available at no charge, 
> typically in an unbranded release.? What Red Hat sells is support.
Does Red Hat give away software anymore?
> I don't mean helpdesk style
"support-me-when-something-breaks"
> support.? Support isn't something that exists only during incidents, 
> support is a relationship. It's periodic meetings with your account 
> manager and engineers. It's discussing your roadmap and your pain 
> points regularly, and getting direction from them. It's the 
> opportunity to tell Red Hat what your needs and priorities are, and 
> helping them make decisions about where to allocate their engineers 
> time to address the real needs of their customers. It's setting the 
> direction for the company that builds the system that sits underneath 
> your technical operations. That kind of support is what makes RHEL a 
> valuable offering.
>
> If you don't need the kind of support that comes with enterprise 
> offerings, then by all means, use the Free Software that Red Hat 
> provides to the community. 
I am confused.? Last month Red Hat announced that the source code would 
not be published.
> But don't make the mistake of thinking that Red Hat is trying to mlik 
> businesses simply because they're businesses.? Red Hat's offerings
are
> expensive because they're enterprise-focused support plans.
>
Businesses can purchase in a tax-advantageous manner that you can not as 
an individual.? Companies do not pay tax on their expenses.
That might partially explain the higher rates for commercial products 
and services.
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I am not an expert network manager.? I am a physician that used CentOS 8 
on my three practice servers until the big "rug pull." At the time, I 
had a choice between switching to the Stream or Oracle Linux 8.? I went 
with Oracle Linux 8 and had no complaints.? Some have suggested that the 
evil Oracle will execute the same IBM rug pull.? I considered that.? 
That concern is a non-issue now.
The spirit of GPL was meant to force sharing and prevent the 
commercialization of the volunteer work of many.? At the time, I was 
confused about why IBM purchased Red Hat for an astronomical amount.? 
Well, it is clear now.? As the readers know, there is a significant 
defect in the GPL: A Comprehensive Analysis of the GPL Issues With the 
Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) Business Model 
<https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2023/jun/23/rhel-gpl-analysis/> The 
terms of the license are enforceable, not the spirit
I think the Rocky Linux workaround will eventually fail.? I expect IBM 
already has a plan for all contingencies.
There is reason for anger.? Is there a reason for hope?
frank saporito md