> On 21/06/20 1:23 pm, John Pierce wrote: >> but the build process should be the same, no? I can't believe RH >> would >> use a completely different build process for the release than for the >> beta/development stuff. > > The packages still have to be built as a whole, they need to go through > QA testing, isos need to be built and tested. The only thing that I can > think of that Stream benefits this process is to help Red Hat find the > odd bug here and there before their final release (after which CentOS > still has to do everything listed above).As I understand it the whole full build and QA and whatever may still be done again. The big difference is that the whole work of how to build and setting up the build infrastructure has already been done and is known and tested. So the complete build is going quite fast and the big delays are a thing of the past. If it's going to be like that it sounds very good. Regards, Simon
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 2:01 AM Simon Matter via CentOS <centos at centos.org> wrote:> > On 21/06/20 1:23 pm, John Pierce wrote: > >> but the build process should be the same, no? I can't believe RH > >> would > >> use a completely different build process for the release than for the > >> beta/development stuff. > > > > The packages still have to be built as a whole, they need to go through > > QA testing, isos need to be built and tested. The only thing that I can > > think of that Stream benefits this process is to help Red Hat find the > > odd bug here and there before their final release (after which CentOS > > still has to do everything listed above). > > As I understand it the whole full build and QA and whatever may still be > done again. The big difference is that the whole work of how to build and > setting up the build infrastructure has already been done and is known and > tested. So the complete build is going quite fast and the big delays are a > thing of the past. > > If it's going to be like that it sounds very good. > >exactly, that was my point. I remember 8.0 was very delayed by how much harder and different the build process was. -- -john r pierce recycling used bits in santa cruz
On 22/06/20 7:03 am, John Pierce wrote:> On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 2:01 AM Simon Matter via CentOS <centos at centos.org> > wrote: > >>> On 21/06/20 1:23 pm, John Pierce wrote: >>>> but the build process should be the same, no? I can't believe RH >>>> would >>>> use a completely different build process for the release than for the >>>> beta/development stuff. >>> >>> The packages still have to be built as a whole, they need to go through >>> QA testing, isos need to be built and tested. The only thing that I can >>> think of that Stream benefits this process is to help Red Hat find the >>> odd bug here and there before their final release (after which CentOS >>> still has to do everything listed above). >> >> As I understand it the whole full build and QA and whatever may still be >> done again. The big difference is that the whole work of how to build and >> setting up the build infrastructure has already been done and is known and >> tested. So the complete build is going quite fast and the big delays are a >> thing of the past. >> >> If it's going to be like that it sounds very good. >> > exactly, that was my point. I remember 8.0 was very delayed by how much > harder and different the build process was.That work was completed in the build of 8.0 and to a smaller extent 8.1. Stream doesn't really add anything here. Peter