CentOS - Jul 2019 - epoch rpm el8 obsolete?

I am building a new workstation based on EL8 now. As someone else here
mentioned, the raw EL8 distribution
is unusable as a workstation. Therefore I am building lot of additional
packages. Today I came across a problem
with a custom package with an Epoch version, that kills the yum/dnf update
process (it tries to find a "best"
package etc.). My actually question; is the RPM Epoch stanza obsolete now (for
EL8)? I remember that they also
started to delete Groups categories ...

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LF

On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 18:08, Leon Fauster via CentOS <centos at
centos.org>
wrote:
> I am building a new workstation based on EL8 now. As someone else here
> mentioned, the raw EL8 distribution
> is unusable as a workstation. Therefore I am building lot of additional
> packages. Today I came across a problem
> with a custom package with an Epoch version, that kills the yum/dnf update
> process (it tries to find a "best"
> package etc.). My actually question; is the RPM Epoch stanza obsolete now
> (for EL8)? I remember that they also
> started to delete Groups categories ...
>
>
Epoch still exists and is used.. but is now not the top dog in all
transactions. What exactly is the package and what is it trying to
'replace'?

When I have run into this.. it is usually a modular package which is
installed or available and dnf/yum says 'cant replace X with Y'


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Stephen J Smoogen.

Am 09.07.2019 um 01:06 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen <smooge at
gmail.com>:
>> 
>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 18:08, Leon Fauster via CentOS <centos at
centos.org> wrote:
>> I am building a new workstation based on EL8 now. As someone else here
mentioned, the raw EL8 distribution
>> is unusable as a workstation. Therefore I am building lot of additional
packages. Today I came across a problem
>> with a custom package with an Epoch version, that kills the yum/dnf
update process (it tries to find a "best"
>> package etc.). My actually question; is the RPM Epoch stanza obsolete
now (for EL8)? I remember that they also
>> started to delete Groups categories ...
>> 
> 
> Epoch still exists and is used.. but is now not the top dog in all
transactions.
> What exactly is the package and what is it trying to 'replace'?
> 
> When I have run into this.. it is usually a modular package which is
installed or
> available and dnf/yum says 'cant replace X with Y'
I wanted to force our rebuilded package (that include some "desktop"
fixes) to be installed. The added Epoch
got in the way of dnf and also "dnf --nobest" didn't help to
resolve it. Just to make it efficient I took the
shortcut and useded a %{dist}.1 instead of the Epoch stanza. But good to known
that its still valid and with
more time I will check the root cause of my former approach ... thanks.

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LF