> -----Original Message----- > From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of Mark > Haney > Sent: den 7 november 2017 14:10 > To: centos at centos.org > Subject: Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7? > > On 11/07/2017 01:41 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote: > > > > When I first started at this job almost twenty years ago fresh out of > > IT-school, I had an idea to use a Windows print server as this was what I > > knew. > > I wasn't trusted with the *nix farm yet then. > > Over the years I have tried at least once a year to get our > > Linux-computers > > to talk to our AD-connected Windows Servers, but haven't quite made it > yet. > > I've also tried to get the AD-connected Windows-clients to talk to a Linux > > print server to no avail. Granted it's been awhile now since I tried. > > Maybe > > I'll give it another go. Both the Windows and Linux OS:es have developed > > quite a bit the last ten years... > > > I've had no problems printing to AD connected print servers with Linux > in a decade. Either with the Linux box (usually Fedora, but Ubuntu as > well) as part of the AD domain or not part of the domain. > > Generally all the printer issues with Windows print servers is the print > spool getting jacked up and having to be restarted. It's better in > Server 2016, but still crap IMHO.We don't run anything on Server 2016, only have a Server 2012 left. Last I tried was with Server 2012, a year or so ago. -- //Sorin
On Tue, November 7, 2017 7:24 am, Sorin Srbu wrote:>> -----Original Message----- >> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of Mark >> Haney >> Sent: den 7 november 2017 14:10 >> To: centos at centos.org >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7? >> >> On 11/07/2017 01:41 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote: >> > >> > When I first started at this job almost twenty years ago fresh out of >> > IT-school, I had an idea to use a Windows print server as this was >> what I >> > knew. >> > I wasn't trusted with the *nix farm yet then. >> > Over the years I have tried at least once a year to get our >> > Linux-computers >> > to talk to our AD-connected Windows Servers, but haven't quite made it >> yet. >> > I've also tried to get the AD-connected Windows-clients to talk to a >> Linux >> > print server to no avail. Granted it's been awhile now since I tried. >> > Maybe >> > I'll give it another go. Both the Windows and Linux OS:es have >> developed >> > quite a bit the last ten years... >> > >> I've had no problems printing to AD connected print servers with Linux >> in a decade. Either with the Linux box (usually Fedora, but Ubuntu as >> well) as part of the AD domain or not part of the domain. >> >> Generally all the printer issues with Windows print servers is the print >> spool getting jacked up and having to be restarted. It's better in >> Server 2016, but still crap IMHO. > > We don't run anything on Server 2016, only have a Server 2012 left. > Last I tried was with Server 2012, a year or so ago.And at the end of the day it turns out all this printer server problem discussion belongs to MS Windows admin list, not Linux or UNIX admin list. So, why didn't you, guys use Linux server instead of Windows server for printing? You paid with your trouble for poor decision. Windows IMHO can not be allowed to serve anything. It is the only system I know of whose vendor tell you it is unsafe to run without third party software (antivirus). Valeri> > -- > //Sorin > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> -----Original Message----- > From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of Valeri > Galtsev > Sent: den 7 november 2017 14:49 > To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7? > > >> Generally all the printer issues with Windows print servers is theprint> >> spool getting jacked up and having to be restarted. It's better in > >> Server 2016, but still crap IMHO. > > > > We don't run anything on Server 2016, only have a Server 2012 left. > > Last I tried was with Server 2012, a year or so ago. > > And at the end of the day it turns out all this printer server problem > discussion belongs to MS Windows admin list, not Linux or UNIX admin list. > So, why didn't you, guys use Linux server instead of Windows server for > printing? You paid with your trouble for poor decision. Windows IMHO can > not be allowed to serve anything. It is the only system I know of whose > vendor tell you it is unsafe to run without third party software > (antivirus). > > ValeriThis was years ago. Things were setup differently. This being a conservative workplace, even as universities go, you need to tread carefully with the users, who usually want things to stay the same. Also, discussions on this list sometimes tend to deviate from the original question. I've had some pointers and hints by now regarding the HP laptops etc, thanks all! -- //Sorin
On 11/07/2017 08:24 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:>> > We don't run anything on Server 2016, only have a Server 2012 left. > Last I tried was with Server 2012, a year or so ago. >I dealt with 2012 print servers exclusively until 2016 was released.? It worked better than anything prior especially considering we had 60+ Macs connecting to it for AD authentication and print services.? (We were all Macs except two linux laptops, my Lenovo and a developer who ran Ubuntu on his Mac.) All in all, it didn't totally suck once you got it setup for your normal print load. -- Mark Haney Network Engineer at NeoNova 919-460-3330 option 1 mark.haney at neonova.net www.neonova.net
> -----Original Message----- > From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of Mark > Haney > Sent: den 7 november 2017 15:04 > To: centos at centos.org > Subject: Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7? > > On 11/07/2017 08:24 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote: > >> > > We don't run anything on Server 2016, only have a Server 2012 left. > > Last I tried was with Server 2012, a year or so ago. > > > I dealt with 2012 print servers exclusively until 2016 was released. It > worked better than anything prior especially considering we had 60+ Macs > connecting to it for AD authentication and print services. (We were all > Macs except two linux laptops, my Lenovo and a developer who ran Ubuntu > on his Mac.) All in all, it didn't totally suck once you got it setup > for your normal print load.I agree there. It was good for a while, especially when I could add printers to users based on group memberships using a GPO. Our linux user group is shrinking is size, with respect to the researchers using linux. I'm thinking this part of my job will eventually be quite minimal. OTOH I may be getting to work more with Apple's line of computers. Reorg, reorg, reorg... Oh, well. :-) -- //Sorin