On 07/28/2017 07:51 AM, wwp wrote:> Hello Johnny, > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:14:49 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > >> On 07/28/2017 07:04 AM, wwp wrote: >>> Hello Johnny, >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:44:33 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 07/28/2017 05:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>>>> On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote: >>>>>> Hello there, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable >>>>>> GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its >>>>>> kernel can't run on this hardware. >>>>>> >>>>>> What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless >>>>>> it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ >>>>>> more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not >>>>>> willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have an experimental 4.9.x kernel stream for x86_64. Let me see if I >>>>> can create a live-dvd that boots with that kernel and installs. >>>> >>>> 4.9 kernel tree for CentOS-7 that is. >>>> >>>> It lives here: >>>> >>>> http://mirror.centos.org/altarch/7/experimental/x86_64/ >>>> >>>> (currently pushing a 4.9.39 kernel there) >>> >>> Thanks, if I succeed in installing a C7, I'll make use of it and >>> provide feedback. >>> >> >> hmmm .. the live ISO fails to boot .. there is not squashfs module .. >> let me see if I can fix that. > > Where could I get an ISO (once fixed), I only saw RPMs at the link you > pasted? Or do I have to assemble myself in some way? >Once I get a working ISO that installs, I'll post a link. You would have to set up the experimental repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/ to get kernel updates, and those would be RPM only. In fact, I have a live ISO now that installs (in KVM) .. but I still need to make sure this kernel updates correctly from the experimental repo. The kernel (and linux-firmware) rpms are unsigned, but should upgrade from the experimental repo for future upgrades and those are signed. So, I should have something installable sometime in the next few hours that you can try. Thanks, Johnny Hughes -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170728/84f348f7/attachment-0001.sig>
On 07/28/2017 08:58 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:> On 07/28/2017 07:51 AM, wwp wrote: >> Hello Johnny, >> >> >> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:14:49 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: >> >>> On 07/28/2017 07:04 AM, wwp wrote: >>>> Hello Johnny, >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:44:33 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 07/28/2017 05:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>>>>> On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote: >>>>>>> Hello there, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable >>>>>>> GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its >>>>>>> kernel can't run on this hardware. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless >>>>>>> it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ >>>>>>> more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not >>>>>>> willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have an experimental 4.9.x kernel stream for x86_64. Let me see if I >>>>>> can create a live-dvd that boots with that kernel and installs. >>>>> >>>>> 4.9 kernel tree for CentOS-7 that is. >>>>> >>>>> It lives here: >>>>> >>>>> http://mirror.centos.org/altarch/7/experimental/x86_64/ >>>>> >>>>> (currently pushing a 4.9.39 kernel there) >>>> >>>> Thanks, if I succeed in installing a C7, I'll make use of it and >>>> provide feedback. >>>> >>> >>> hmmm .. the live ISO fails to boot .. there is not squashfs module .. >>> let me see if I can fix that. >> >> Where could I get an ISO (once fixed), I only saw RPMs at the link you >> pasted? Or do I have to assemble myself in some way? >> > > Once I get a working ISO that installs, I'll post a link. > > You would have to set up the experimental repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/ to > get kernel updates, and those would be RPM only. > > In fact, I have a live ISO now that installs (in KVM) .. but I still > need to make sure this kernel updates correctly from the experimental > repo. > > The kernel (and linux-firmware) rpms are unsigned, but should upgrade > from the experimental repo for future upgrades and those are signed. > > So, I should have something installable sometime in the next few hours > that you can try.OK .. I just pushed this ISO to the master mirror: CentOS-7-x86_64-LiveGnome-1707-exp.iso (sha256sum): f60d806f513f337acd09c5cf4a2ec3c735ba82519798d07096992916fc4cf271 Once it makes it to the mirrors, it can be downloaded via this link: https://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7-x86_64-LiveGnome-1707-exp.iso I also tested this on a physical machine (t520 thinkpad) , as well as an install on a KVM VM, and it installs fine both places. After install and reboot, add in the experimental.repo file via this link (bottom of the page): https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/AltArch/i386 Run a 'yum upgrade', reboot and you should be set. Thanks, Johnny Hughes -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170728/ff5a374d/attachment-0001.sig>
Hello Johnny, On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:58:16 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote:> On 07/28/2017 07:51 AM, wwp wrote: > > Hello Johnny, > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:14:49 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > > > >> On 07/28/2017 07:04 AM, wwp wrote: > >>> Hello Johnny, > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:44:33 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 07/28/2017 05:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > >>>>> On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote: > >>>>>> Hello there, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > >>>>>> GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > >>>>>> kernel can't run on this hardware. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > >>>>>> it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ > >>>>>> more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not > >>>>>> willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I have an experimental 4.9.x kernel stream for x86_64. Let me see if I > >>>>> can create a live-dvd that boots with that kernel and installs. > >>>> > >>>> 4.9 kernel tree for CentOS-7 that is. > >>>> > >>>> It lives here: > >>>> > >>>> http://mirror.centos.org/altarch/7/experimental/x86_64/ > >>>> > >>>> (currently pushing a 4.9.39 kernel there) > >>> > >>> Thanks, if I succeed in installing a C7, I'll make use of it and > >>> provide feedback. > >>> > >> > >> hmmm .. the live ISO fails to boot .. there is not squashfs module .. > >> let me see if I can fix that. > > > > Where could I get an ISO (once fixed), I only saw RPMs at the link you > > pasted? Or do I have to assemble myself in some way? > > > > Once I get a working ISO that installs, I'll post a link. > > You would have to set up the experimental repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/ to > get kernel updates, and those would be RPM only. > > In fact, I have a live ISO now that installs (in KVM) .. but I still > need to make sure this kernel updates correctly from the experimental > repo. > > The kernel (and linux-firmware) rpms are unsigned, but should upgrade > from the experimental repo for future upgrades and those are signed. > > So, I should have something installable sometime in the next few hours > that you can try.I've just succeeded in installing CentOS7 from the DVD! Had no luck using a Live CD (both dd'ed to a flash drive). Hardware support is not complete (or not configured as-is): - bluetooth not working - HDMI ouput -> nothing - dell Fn keys -> no screen light, no wifi toggle - no suspend/hibernate I will now try to inject more recent kernels (yours *) or extra firmware, see how I can find better hardware support and configuration. And compare this to what Fedora 26 provides.. (*) BTW, I installed your 4.9.39 kernel (did a yum update after configuring a repo file to get your stuff) and at boot, I immediately get: error: $KERNEL_NAME_HERE has invalid signature error: you need to load the kernel first Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170728/f5c10270/attachment-0001.sig>
On 07/28/2017 10:26 AM, wwp wrote:> Hello Johnny, > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:58:16 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > >> On 07/28/2017 07:51 AM, wwp wrote: >>> Hello Johnny, >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 07:14:49 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 07/28/2017 07:04 AM, wwp wrote: >>>>> Hello Johnny, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:44:33 -0500 Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 07/28/2017 05:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>>>>>> On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello there, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable >>>>>>>> GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its >>>>>>>> kernel can't run on this hardware. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless >>>>>>>> it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ >>>>>>>> more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not >>>>>>>> willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have an experimental 4.9.x kernel stream for x86_64. Let me see if I >>>>>>> can create a live-dvd that boots with that kernel and installs. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4.9 kernel tree for CentOS-7 that is. >>>>>> >>>>>> It lives here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://mirror.centos.org/altarch/7/experimental/x86_64/ >>>>>> >>>>>> (currently pushing a 4.9.39 kernel there) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, if I succeed in installing a C7, I'll make use of it and >>>>> provide feedback. >>>>> >>>> >>>> hmmm .. the live ISO fails to boot .. there is not squashfs module .. >>>> let me see if I can fix that. >>> >>> Where could I get an ISO (once fixed), I only saw RPMs at the link you >>> pasted? Or do I have to assemble myself in some way? >>> >> >> Once I get a working ISO that installs, I'll post a link. >> >> You would have to set up the experimental repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/ to >> get kernel updates, and those would be RPM only. >> >> In fact, I have a live ISO now that installs (in KVM) .. but I still >> need to make sure this kernel updates correctly from the experimental >> repo. >> >> The kernel (and linux-firmware) rpms are unsigned, but should upgrade >> from the experimental repo for future upgrades and those are signed. >> >> So, I should have something installable sometime in the next few hours >> that you can try. > > I've just succeeded in installing CentOS7 from the DVD! Had no luck > using a Live CD (both dd'ed to a flash drive). > > Hardware support is not complete (or not configured as-is): > - bluetooth not working > - HDMI ouput -> nothing > - dell Fn keys -> no screen light, no wifi toggle > - no suspend/hibernate > > I will now try to inject more recent kernels (yours *) or extra firmware, > see how I can find better hardware support and configuration. And > compare this to what Fedora 26 provides.. > > (*) BTW, I installed your 4.9.39 kernel (did a yum update after > configuring a repo file to get your stuff) and at boot, I immediately > get: > error: $KERNEL_NAME_HERE has invalid signature > error: you need to load the kernel first >There are actually 2 kernels, one on the live DVD I just posted, and one in the experimental repo. Both of those would require NO secure boot turned on, but they both should work fine with UEFI and secure boot off. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170728/204140fa/attachment-0001.sig>