m.roth at 5-cent.us
2016-Sep-23 19:50 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
Either CentOS 6 or 7 - anyone know if it's possible? Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away in the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365. mark, VMNH* * Very Much Not Happy
Valeri Galtsev
2016-Sep-23 20:11 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
On Fri, September 23, 2016 2:50 pm, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> Either CentOS 6 or 7 - anyone know if it's possible? > > Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away in > the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365.When my folks decide something like that it will be time to look for new job ;-( Valeri> > mark, VMNH* > > * Very Much Not Happy > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
m.roth at 5-cent.us
2016-Sep-23 20:25 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
Valeri Galtsev wrote:> > On Fri, September 23, 2016 2:50 pm, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> Either CentOS 6 or 7 - anyone know if it's possible? >> >> Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away >> in the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365. > > When my folks decide something like that it will be time to look for new > job ;-( >Yeah, well, but I like it here, and would like to stay at least a few more years.... mark
Fred Smith
2016-Sep-23 20:26 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 03:50:53PM -0400, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> Either CentOS 6 or 7 - anyone know if it's possible? > > Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away in > the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365. > > mark, VMNH* > > * Very Much Not HappyOh you poor boy. Outlook sucks rocks. We're now using outlook 365 at my place of employment (formerly we ran our own exchange server(s)). but we're also all forced to have a real windows-on-metal system at our desks, so it's not a major hardship. they (the management) require windows on real hardware, not in a VM so I have two computers at my desk since I do all my actual work on Linux. it's a waste of company money, at the very least. -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." --------------------------- Corinthians 5:21 ---------------------------------
Richard
2016-Sep-23 20:56 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
> Date: Friday, September 23, 2016 15:50:53 -0400 > From: m.roth at 5-cent.us > > Either CentOS 6 or 7 - anyone know if it's possible? > > Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go > away in the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, > Outlook 365. >What you are being moved to may be a different m$ service offering, but their "outlook.office365.com" service, while exchange focused, supports imap and standards-based clients.
Always Learning
2016-Sep-23 22:48 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 15:50 -0400, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away in > the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365.Working with these expert and highly knowledgeable folk must be an incredibly challenge :-( Obviously brain-washed by Microsoft's marketing team. Commiserations. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. England's place is in the European Union.
John R Pierce
2016-Sep-23 23:25 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
On 9/23/2016 12:50 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away in > the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365.let me guess, outsourcing the mail server operations to 'the cloud' ? -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz
John Jasen
2016-Sep-26 16:15 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
The only linux-based client that, if I recall, can speak native MS mail protocols, was Evolution. I don't know if it still does. On 09/23/2016 07:25 PM, John R Pierce wrote:> On 9/23/2016 12:50 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go >> away in >> the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365. > > let me guess, outsourcing the mail server operations to 'the cloud' ? > >
Gary Stainburn
2016-Sep-26 16:31 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
Mark, While we still run an EXIM service for the bulk of the company, I do have it happily co-existing with a small (15 user) Office 365 setup. Personally I am using a Centos 7 laptop but my emails are handled by connecting via SSH to an old Fedora 8 box running KDE and KMail. This connects perfectly happy with my Dovecot/EXIM local server and to my Office 365 account also using IMAP/SMTP. Contrary to what others have said on here, it is actually a solution that is working quite well for us with a mixture of Macbook / iphone / ipad / Galaxy phone / Windows PC / Linux PC. Certainly for the mobile users it's a much better solution. (it's okay, I'm going to sit down in a darkened room now to recover) :-) Gary On Friday 23 September 2016 20:50:53 m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> Either CentOS 6 or 7 - anyone know if it's possible? > > Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away in > the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365. > > mark, VMNH* > > * Very Much Not Happy > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
m.roth at 5-cent.us
2016-Sep-26 17:30 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
Hi, Gary, Gary Stainburn wrote:> > While we still run an EXIM service for the bulk of the company, I do have > it happily co-existing with a small (15 user) Office 365 setup. > > Personally I am using a Centos 7 laptop but my emails are handled by > connecting via SSH to an old Fedora 8 box running KDE and KMail. > > This connects perfectly happy with my Dovecot/EXIM local server and to my > Office 365 account also using IMAP/SMTP.<snip> You're not the only one who's responded this way. As I said in my original post, I am given to understand that They have decided on a Policy to *stop* enabling IMAP. If that was left running, I'd be running just what I am now, IMAP to Exchange. mark
Johnny Hughes
2016-Sep-28 15:05 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
On 09/23/2016 02:50 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> Either CentOS 6 or 7 - anyone know if it's possible? > > Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away in > the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365. >Office 365 (including outlook) has a web client for Mail and Calendar. I use both with firefox and chrome on CentOS-7. I don't use either the Calendar or the Mail enough to have cared about accessing it any other way than the web client. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20160928/9fa6a02a/attachment-0001.sig>
Valeri Galtsev
2016-Sep-28 16:25 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
On Wed, September 28, 2016 10:05 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:> On 09/23/2016 02:50 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> Either CentOS 6 or 7 - anyone know if it's possible? >> Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away in >> the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365. > > Office 365 (including outlook) has a web client for Mail and Calendar. > > I use both with firefox and chrome on CentOS-7. > > I don't use either the Calendar or the Mail enough to have cared aboutaccessing it any other way than the web client.>Yes, I guess the OP got many of us confused as to what the high brass decision in his company is: 1. Is it IMAP server (and whatever calendar server) is (are) to be replaced by MS Exchange server, or 2. Clients have to use MS Outlook (is there requirement to have integrated server side calendar part so users can send embedded event invitations from the Outlook mail/calendar/(whatever else) clients?) 1. is clear, UNIX servers are to go, and MS certified sysadmin will be hired soon to run exchange server. 2. Can depend on what high brass order exactly is. I do have a bunch of users who use outlook configured to talk to my IMAP servers. And others mention the same. I do believe there exists open source counterparts to what MS Exchange server does (collabsuite pops up in my mind...). But running that in this situation would be PITA. The ones I've seen normally need their own client side application. Even if Outlook client will work with them (fully, not as just as IMAP client), then there is fair chance closed source/ closed "standards" MS client will stop working after some MS update or version of client upgrade. And with MS you can not avoid doing update, update, update... so going that route is planting time bomb under yourself. Bottom line: even if it just decision 2, MS Exchange server is what it ultimately will lead to. In other words, my semi-humorous first assessment: when you hear this decision it is time to search for new job, is probably the only viable one. Or, take paid leave and go through full blown MS training and certification. Yes, certification is more valuable than your ability in MS admin community in my observation! But as always, this is OP assessment and decision that matters as he will be the one dealing with consequences. Do not shoot the bad news messenger ;-( Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Andrew Holway
2017-Mar-20 08:08 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
Office365 is a bit flaky in places but works perfectly well as an IMAP server to any email client. The calendar functionality is not there via IMAP however so you wont get notified if you get invited to meetings. Be it on your head!>From a business perspective Office365 is an extremely good choice for acompany using mostly windows or mac. Its pretty seamless. The web client has much improved recently and honestly the office integration is kinda awesome. Flakyness aside; the M$ still very much holds first place over OSX, Gnome & KDE on desktop features and user experience. On 23 September 2016 at 21:50, <m.roth at 5-cent.us> wrote:> Either CentOS 6 or 7 - anyone know if it's possible? > > Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away in > the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365. > > mark, VMNH* > > * Very Much Not Happy > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >
Nux!
2017-Mar-20 16:53 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
Hi, I've used Davmail against sExchange in the past, with success. If that doesn't work for you, then the easy way out is webmail which is decent, in fact I have colleagues prefering it to the standard Outlook program. Office365 does offer IMAP though and it works reasonably well, I use it with Thunderbird, hopefully they won't disable that - wonder as to the reason of it. hth -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro ----- Original Message -----> From: "m roth" <m.roth at 5-cent.us> > To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org> > Sent: Friday, 23 September, 2016 20:50:53 > Subject: [CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?> Either CentOS 6 or 7 - anyone know if it's possible? > > Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away in > the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365. > > mark, VMNH* > > * Very Much Not Happy > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
m.roth at 5-cent.us
2017-Mar-20 18:18 UTC
[CentOS] An 'orrible question: Outlook 365 under wine on CentOS?
This is seriously weird... note the date I made the original post.... Nux! wrote:> > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "m roth" <m.roth at 5-cent.us> >> To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org> >> Sent: Friday, 23 September, 2016 20:50:53 > >> Either CentOS 6 or 7 - anyone know if it's possible? >> >> Upper Management has decided on a policy that IMAP is going to go away >> in the near future, and they want everyone on Lookout, sorry, Outlook 365. >> > I've used Davmail against sExchange in the past, with success. > If that doesn't work for you, then the easy way out is webmail which is > decent, in fact I have colleagues prefering it to the standard Outlook > program. > Office365 does offer IMAP though and it works reasonably well, I use it > with Thunderbird, hopefully they won't disable that - wonder as to the > reason of it.I may look into it, in my copious spare time. <g> Since I posted, they migrated us, and I've used the Outlook webmail. Pardon me while I go worship the porcelain throne. They *did* disable IMAP. "Policy"... aka, as Bruce Schnier says, "security theater" mark
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